Arturia V Collection 8 official thread

[abducted]

They claim it's a jupiter 8, so it should be able to do what a jupiter 8 can do, with just one instance of the plugin. Otherwise it's false advertising

[sacer]

For backwards compatibility, V3 will install alongside V4...

yes but i hate this backward compatibility, thats the same shit than NI Komplete. I use it Since Komplete5 - So you have 4 Kontakt Version, 3 Guitar Rigs, two Maschine, 2 Battery and 2 Reaktor Versions to install only to be able to continue old projects. Yes I can switch these plugins manual, but it's a lot of work if you have 1000 of never finished projects saved....

A lot of the old Stuff makes problems to activate. Like Fxpansion Synth Squad, which can't be activated in latest windows, so you are loosing backward compatibility. I think on mac you are loosing much more backward compatibility - or need an old mac to launch these projects

Why do you need 3 seperate V1 Versions of Spire (1.0, 1.1, 1.5 ) , which sound the same ?

I also have old Arturia V3 and V4 Collection wich sound the same like V5 Collection, so why not make them backward compatibel and reduze the amount of plugins.
I also have every Arturia Synth two times in Komplete Kontrol, with old and new GUI...
I have so many old plugins to open older projects. Xils Lab, Synapse Audio, Rob Papen, Fab Filter, D16, Izotope, Plugin Alliance are doing the same shit.

Until now I was able to switch the old plugin with new plugin in an old project, but with Arturia Jupiter, I have to rebuild all the used presets, thats a lot of Fun , if you have used the Jupiter in many Projects. A Preset Converter would be a nice support from Arturia.
When they rolled out V collection 5, they also offered later on a preset cvonverter, because many people have asked for, but this time, it seems to be that no one has used the old Jupiter V3

Real Backward compatible is:
Tone2, Waves, Omnisphere, UVI and U-he, even RefX Nexus and Steinberg are offering real backward compatibility. If they release a major update, the old plugin would be open in new one. So all old projects launch with the new major version of the plugin.

[ATS]

Has anyone been able to download all the updates? I still can't and have tried several times over the last couple of days. Maybe I shouldn't use the Arturia download manager?

[HunterKiller]

Well, just did a test of the factory patches from Jup-V3 vs Jup-V4 (demo) and it's water and wine. Now it really sounds like a analog model. To be fair, Jup-8 V3 does good on some patches, but most of them I couldn't make right due to the terrible envelopes and bad emulation in general. Now it's really a proper Jupiter emulation!

(I used the patches of this topic)

They need to give the ARP2600, the CS-80 and the Moog Modular the same treatment.

[beltrom]

Has anyone been able to download all the updates? I still can't and have tried several times over the last couple of days. Maybe I shouldn't use the Arturia download manager?

Yes, I downloaded everything V Collection 7 yesterday morning...
I have silent install off, don't know if that makes a difference.

If I remember correctly the mellotron seemed to freeze, so I stopped that one.
Pushed install again for it while the rest of the plugins were installing, ASC took that one last but it went fine as well at second try.

Purchased V Collection 8 in the evening and ASC only downloaded and installed the new ones.

[andrew71]

Has anyone been able to download all the updates? I still can't and have tried several times over the last couple of days. Maybe I shouldn't use the Arturia download manager?

I had a problem installing the updates initially where the icons for the new products didn't appear properly and downloads seemed to get stuck. I uninstalled the ASC, downloaded the latest version from Arturia and installed it. After that everything installed smoothly for me.

[rezoneight]

Sorry was referring to the JP-8 RC plugin. I think the person who brought it up said it was essential to the sound so by not having it you might as well toss out the emulation. Seems a bit much to me unless there is more to dual mode than giving you two different patches per key (at 4-voice polyphony each). Seems that could easily be done ITB. Should they have taken it away? Not sure why they would if it was there before but that doesn't seem like an essential feature to me. Split mode? Please.

I don't think they took it away. Jup-8 V4 is a brand new plugin, rewritten from scratch. They just chose not to implement it this time. Probably because (almost) no one actually uses it. As I described, there are much better ways to make stacks and splits for performances.

Dude c’mon. If it was there before and it’s not there now they took it away. There is nothing that indicates it was temporary. I’m not saying they made the wrong choice at all and to me the sound is more important than dual mode And as you note there are other ways to achieve the same thing ITB.

[wwjd]

Arturia, please make a copy of a recent 12 voice synth. You could call it the "DEEP MINED".

[Hellfog]

149 EUR upgrade ok price.

[minkray]

Arturia, please make a copy of a recent 12 voice synth. You could call it the "DEEP MINED".

aaah, naughty, naughty

but seriously, someone should really return the favor and troll and bully the shit outta Buli Crapfinger by copying their original products.

wait... they have no original products..

[Arashi]

Dude c’mon. If it was there before and it’s not there now they took it away. There is nothing that indicates it was temporary. I’m not saying they made the wrong choice at all and to me the sound is more important than dual mode And as you note there are other ways to achieve the same thing ITB.

You’re missing the point. Jup-8 V4 is a brand new plugin. That’s why the patches aren’t compatible. Taking that feature away would mean it existed before in this plugin. It didn’t. They had that feature in the previous plugin, but this is a completely new one that doesn’t use any of the previous code (Arturia confirmed this), therefore they didn’t “take it away”, they chose not to reimplement that feature when creating the new plugin.

[rezoneight]

Dude c’mon. If it was there before and it’s not there now they took it away. There is nothing that indicates it was temporary. I’m not saying they made the wrong choice at all and to me the sound is more important than dual mode And as you note there are other ways to achieve the same thing ITB.

You’re missing the point. Jup-8 V4 is a brand new plugin. That’s why the patches aren’t compatible. Taking that feature away would mean it existed before in this plugin. It didn’t. They had that feature in the previous plugin, but this is a completely new one that doesn’t use any of the previous code (Arturia confirmed this), therefore they didn’t “take it away”, they chose not to reimplement that feature when creating the new plugin.

Not missing the point at all and not sure why you really want to argue over semantics. Are you a technology person by day? This seems like the pointless argument a software developer would want to have. As one of those I'm familiar with this.

Its new code, not a new product. Same name, different taste. Coke Classic vs New Coke. They took it away. Could have implemented in new code. They didn't. I don't really care one way or another, someone else did.

[LoveEnigma18]

Regarding Analog Lab V (VST3):

1. I noticed that it has reduced number of MIDI parameters exposed to DAW. For Analog Lab 4, there are a lot of them and even though I have the KeyLab MKII keyboard, due to FL Studio limitations, I had manually mapped the parameters to various MIDI CCs. With Analog Lab V, I am not seeing the parameters for previous and next presets, category and category select, etc.

When I go to MIDI settings by clicking on the cog wheel and select Generic MIDI Controller, it's even worse. The controls get reduced and for some reasons, the MIDI CCs mapped to parameters don't respond when send those CCs from my keyboard.

I am really disappointed with this because I spent so much time to communicate all the existing problems related to Analog Lab 4, FL Studio and KeyLab MKII and instead of solving them, we have a new Analog Lab V where things seem to be even worse!

Without proper MIDI support (at least as same as how it was with Analog Lab 4), I don't think I can use the Analog Lab V.

2. "Add destination" button under Macros doesn't seem to do anything.

3. Undo and redo are apparently not working either. The edits are getting stored in history, but the undo and redo buttons aren't doing their supposed function.

General: CPU usage at the bottom doubles as a "Panic" button. I mean when you hover on it, it shows "Panic: All Sounds Off". Not an issue as such, but wondering if this is intentional.

[sinemotor]

Arturia, please make a copy of a recent 12 voice synth. You could call it the "DEEP MINED".

and release it for free.

[tonedef71]

Regarding Analog Lab V (AL5) standalone:

On my Windows 10 PC, AL5 is very slow to start up (not even a splash screen to let you know it has been started). It also feels kinda sluggish after it starts up, too: long moments (a few minutes or more) where AL5 fades white and Windows reports "Not Responding" and sounds of intense disk activity are heard.

I haven't tried it as a plugin in my DAW yet, but I am concerned what the experience will be like with an instance of AL5 installed on several individual DAW tracks.

I don't recall the performance of AL4 being quite this disturbing.

Has anyone here had any issues with Analog Lab V responding in a sluggish manner or feeling rather bloated?