Will Zebra 3 be able to load samples?

[pierb]

I've been using Zebra 2 for a decade now and I've always wished I could load audio files. With its flexibility, it would bring the sound design possibilities to another level.

I'm considering investing in Falcon (which is not cheap) to be able to do that, but it would be a bummer than when Zebra 3 is released in a year or two it already has this feature.

[zvenx]

I am pretty much sure no.
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[pierb]

That's what I imagine too... an official answer would be great

[medienhexer]

That question has been discussed countless times. Urs' reply has always been the same - he's not interested in building a sampler.

Recently, he may have been more open to thinking about using samples for granular manipulation, maybe I read too much into that. But generally, no, it will not replace the sampling features in Falcon.

[Urs]

an official answer

Hehehe, there's not even an official announcement of Zebra3 in any of our official materials. Just ramblings of a sometimes overly optimistic synth developer in their support forum

But anyhow, there are no plans, official or hidden, to add sample playback of any kind to Zebra.

The closest we'd go into that direction is automatic sample to wavetable import, i.e. there ability to convert arbitrary samples to wavetables. But as that wasn't working too well when we tried with Hive, I'm not sure if we give it any priority.

[pierb]

an official answer

Hehehe, there's not even an official announcement of Zebra3 in any of our official materials. Just ramblings of a sometimes overly optimistic synth developer in their support forum

But anyhow, there are no plans, official or hidden, to add sample playback of any kind to Zebra.

The closest we'd go into that direction is automatic sample to wavetable import, i.e. there ability to convert arbitrary samples to wavetables. But as that wasn't working too well when we tried with Hive, I'm not sure if we give it any priority.

Thanks a lot for the answer Urs!

[MorpherX]

In my view "sample to wavetable" is a must be in Zebra 3 because most other wavetable-synth devs have implemented it.
Even the new Vital has it and the results for even dissharmonic samples to wavetable is good to very good.
It's a creative source for new wavetable sounds. Most wavetables available over net etc. are shity, therefore this option is necessary.
What should be special with Zebra 3, if a user can not import samples to wavetables and then modify them in different ways.
It's of course a challange for the dev, but I thought U-He likes challanges.
And Vital shows that it is possible with good results !

[Urs]

Only because wavetable synthesis is the tech of the moment, doesn't mean that we'll focus overly much on it. I think Hive still has the leading edge on quality, and that's the angle we're building on.

Zebra has so many synthesis concepts that we wish to expand on, I'd much rather invest a lot of development time into these than into something that other synths already offer reasonably well.

If anything, as was shown in one of the threads in this forum, there's an .uhm script that yields better results for sample import than some of the newer wavetable synths. Hence, it might make sense to invest in batch processing rather than a dedicated import function.

[surreal]

Only because wavetable synthesis is the tech of the moment, doesn't mean that we'll focus overly much on it. I think Hive still has the leading edge on quality, and that's the angle we're building on.

Zebra has so many synthesis concepts that we wish to expand on, I'd much rather invest a lot of development time into these than into something that other synths already offer reasonably well.

If anything, as was shown in one of the threads in this forum, there's an .uhm script that yields better results for sample import than some of the newer wavetable synths. Hence, it might make sense to invest in batch processing rather than a dedicated import function.

Where can we find that script? Where can we get template script's to do this and fm and Pd Urs?

[Urs]

Where can we find that script?

A quick search for "uhm sample" reveals this link:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=519729&p=7322784&h ... t#p7322784

Where can we get template script's to do this and fm and Pd Urs?

There are scripts here, but Plugmon has released a soundset that fully concentrates on PD and FM in uhm, which is by now probably the ultimate source of it:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=555860

If that's too costy, here's a tutorial I started:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=511639

There are also all Casio CZ waveforms which I did in uhm, but I don't recall the thread just now.

[surreal]

Where can we find that script?

A quick search for "uhm sample" reveals this link:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=519729&p=7322784&h ... t#p7322784

Where can we get template script's to do this and fm and Pd Urs?

There are scripts here, but Plugmon has released a soundset that fully concentrates on PD and FM in uhm, which is by now probably the ultimate source of it:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=555860

If that's too costy, here's a tutorial I started:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=511639

There are also all Casio CZ waveforms which I did in uhm, but I don't recall the thread just now.

Thank you very much Urs, greatly appreciated!

[MorpherX]

Only because wavetable synthesis is the tech of the moment, doesn't mean that we'll focus overly much on it. I think Hive still has the leading edge on quality, and that's the angle we're building on.

Zebra has so many synthesis concepts that we wish to expand on, I'd much rather invest a lot of development time into these than into something that other synths already offer reasonably well.

If anything, as was shown in one of the threads in this forum, there's an .uhm script that yields better results for sample import than some of the newer wavetable synths. Hence, it might make sense to invest in batch processing rather than a dedicated import function.

Where can we find that script? Where can we get template script's to do this and fm and Pd Urs?

I would also like to know where to find this script and how to use it. It does not matter me or other user if there is a script with batch prozessing for sample to wavetable or a graphical solution.

I know that Zebra 2 is the master of high quality modules and also Zebra 3 will be, but please don't forget the base of the sounds are still the "single-cycles" or "wavetables" at least in Hive and Zebra, and after these there comes different modules for modifying and modulating.
I have bought many U-He products because of the high overall sound-quality and I am shure that also sample based wavetables can be modified with that high quality modules to something new (high quality).
But again, where is that script for Hive (with sample to Wavetable) ?

[MorpherX]

Where can we find that script?

A quick search for "uhm sample" reveals this link:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=519729&p=7322784&h ... t#p7322784

Where can we get template script's to do this and fm and Pd Urs?

There are scripts here, but Plugmon has released a soundset that fully concentrates on PD and FM in uhm, which is by now probably the ultimate source of it:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=555860

If that's too costy, here's a tutorial I started:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=511639

There are also all Casio CZ waveforms which I did in uhm, but I don't recall the thread just now.

Ah, O.K., also thank you very much !

[FarleyCZ]

Yeah. This plane ain't gonna fly. Tried that years ago already on this very forum. Though I too think a sample playback would be welcome addition (for just a bit of hybrid synthesis), it's been clearly stated several times that it's not Zebra's goal. ...sad, but it's a descision u-he is fully entitled to. Zebra's still awesome. <3 That said, I'm happy to own Falcon for manipulation-style synthesis. Alchemy was may be even better in that regard, until Apple hijacked it.

[MorpherX]

Where can we find that script?

A quick search for "uhm sample" reveals this link:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=519729&p=7322784&h ... t#p7322784

Where can we get template script's to do this and fm and Pd Urs?

There are scripts here, but Plugmon has released a soundset that fully concentrates on PD and FM in uhm, which is by now probably the ultimate source of it:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=555860

If that's too costy, here's a tutorial I started:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=511639

There are also all Casio CZ waveforms which I did in uhm, but I don't recall the thread just now.

Sorry, but I can't find an explizite Script-Template for "sample to wavetable" only the "Wave Import\nBy Mark Holt".
Would be very helpfull to have such a script, also for people who don't like or don't know this scripting tools.