Ableton Live 10 & Jbridge

[tooneba]

Who pays for jBridge in addition to $800 software? Live users. That's what we call corporate decision makes users clear up their mess, aka incompetence.

[.jon]

Nobody gives a shit about 32 bits anything in 2020.

[tooneba]

A bedroom producer is brazenly speaking on behalf of other million users.

[revvy]

Exactly, all the pros swear by 32 bit, especially the ones using Macs...

[chk071]

Nobody gives a shit about 32 bits anything in 2020.

Yep.

If anyone actually gave a shit all the DAW's wouldn't get rid of it anyway. Yes yes, I know. "Corporate decisions". Yes yes. That's why they do data metrics. Because it's all "corporate decisions". Yes yes.

[kmonkey]

Hey All

Does anyone here have experience with Live 10 and Jbridge? Does it work properly or it is ´shoot in the dark´on which plugs might or might not work? Im considering updating from Live Suite 9, but I have numerous 32 bit plugs that I dont wanna part with.

Thanks

Works 100% - used it for years. On various plugins (some 100 different plugins).

Price for Jbridge is ridiculously cheap. People complain here but in reality they are just sadly confused sad people not having enough of brain.

99.99% of these people spend 15 EUR on weekly basis on something flooded with sugar like Coca Cola (or put some trash food here).

Go figure

[tooneba]

I don't know who sadly confused sad people not having enough of brain or this guy is talking about, but one thing that is obvious to the world is the company who are having hundreds of employee and selling $800 software can't even program lines of code that one developer can program for 15 EUR. Or didn't even try to our source. This lack of consideration and incompetence is clear as day and no one could defend this except some noisy fanboys who are limit testing how far their mental gymnastic can go.

[whyterabbyt]

I don't know who sadly confused sad people not having enough of brain or this guy is talking about, but one thing that is obvious to the world is the company who are having hundreds of employee and selling $800 software can't even program lines of code that one developer can program for 15 EUR. Or didn't even try to our source. This lack of consideration and incompetence is clear as day and no one could defend this except some noisy fanboys who are limit testing how far their mental gymnastic can go.

Nah, the one thing that is obvious to the world that can actually reason properly is that they may or may not be able to program 'lines of code' that 'one developer can program for 15 EUR', but the fact that they haven't is only evidence of the fact that they haven't, not evidence that they can't.

[whyterabbyt]

Also, not so keen on the argument that wealthy companies should be driving innovative small developers out of the market just to fulfill the FRs of any rando.

[Reefius]

Why would they waste valuable time developing a bit bridge for only a handful of users still using 32 bit plugins? Makes absolutely no sense.
Steinberg used to have their own bit bridge in Cubase but they dropped it since v9 because as any sensible company they want to focus on 64 bit only.
Even in a DAW that supports both 64 and 32 bit plugins I would only use 64 bit plugins, because a bit bridge is a waste of CPU power.

I bet most people complaining about no 32 bit support use very old 32 bit versions of plugins because there's no new 64 bit pirated version (for example: Nexus 2). Too bad for them, my purchased 64 bit Nexus 3 works just fine Yep, even Nexus is 64 bit only now

[infrared72]

What an interesting thread this has become. I am a nexus2 license owner as well and have been since 2010. I've purchased many of their expansions and enjoyed using the synthesizer in my projects. I also own vanguard which I purchased as well. In fact, everything I use is properly licensed including rob papen synthesizers, applied acoustics, Gforce software, Many versions of Ableton Live, ik multimedia, and native instruments to name a few.

Several of my older plugins that I have legitimately purchased like Atomic for example are from companies that went under (AlgoMusic) so there is no prospect of getting a 64 bit Updated version of that because the owner passed away. I do pay for the tools I use whether it's software or hardware so making an assumption that I want 32 bit because I'm pirating vst plugins is a baseless generalization, but I can only speak for myself. And by the way i also recently bought Nexus3 using their holiday pricing, and also purchased a new well equipped dell computer capable of running 64 bit and anything i throw at it. So my frustration comes from the perspective of being a loyal return customer for all these organizations I do business with and paying up each time there was a new version and/or new functionality I wanted. Luckily i still have my windows 7 computer with live 8 activated on it along with Various 32 bit vst's. Time to get those projects finished up and move on.

[Kongru]

Ableton probably don’t want to keep supporting something that’s obsolete, that’s all. Especially when another developer already makes and updates a bridge.

[Reefius]

What an interesting thread this has become. I am a nexus2 license owner as well and have been since 2010. I've purchased many of their expansions and enjoyed using the synthesizer in my projects. I also own vanguard which I purchased as well. In fact, everything I use is properly licensed including rob papen synthesizers, applied acoustics, Gforce software, Many versions of Ableton Live, ik multimedia, and native instruments to name a few.

Several of my older plugins that I have legitimately purchased like Atomic for example are from companies that went under (AlgoMusic) so there is no prospect of getting a 64 bit Updated version of that because the owner passed away. I do pay for the tools I use whether it's software or hardware so making an assumption that I want 32 bit because I'm pirating vst plugins is a baseless generalization, but I can only speak for myself. And by the way i also recently bought Nexus3 using their holiday pricing, and also purchased a new well equipped dell computer capable of running 64 bit and anything i throw at it. So my frustration comes from the perspective of being a loyal return customer for all these organizations I do business with and paying up each time there was a new version and/or new functionality I wanted. Luckily i still have my windows 7 computer with live 8 activated on it along with Various 32 bit vst's. Time to get those projects finished up and move on.

Well, jBridge is a great solution for those 32 bit plugins. I also own a jBridge license which I purchased about 5 years ago when I made the switch to 64 bit. I've used it for about a year and it served me well, but since then I completely switched to 64 bit plugins only. I don't even have it installed anymore since I purchased a new computer in 2018.

[tooneba]

I don't know who sadly confused sad people not having enough of brain or this guy is talking about, but one thing that is obvious to the world is the company who are having hundreds of employee and selling $800 software can't even program lines of code that one developer can program for 15 EUR. Or didn't even try to our source. This lack of consideration and incompetence is clear as day and no one could defend this except some noisy fanboys who are limit testing how far their mental gymnastic can go.

Nah, the one thing that is obvious to the world that can actually reason properly is that they may or may not be able to program 'lines of code' that 'one developer can program for 15 EUR', but the fact that they haven't is only evidence of the fact that they haven't, not evidence that they can't.

I have no obligation to give them beneficial of the doubt because I already paid fair share of the cost which are arguably enough to program bit bridge themselves or out source. But the developer couldn't manage to get it done because of incompetence of company. "can't" doesn't necessarily mean developers are lacking the skill to do things. Read what I wrote again. The subject is the bold part. Not developers.

[tooneba]

Also, not so keen on the argument that wealthy companies should be driving innovative small developers out of the market just to fulfill the FRs of any rando.

You just ignored the later part of "program or outsource" for the sake of your argument. Outsourcing brings money to small innovative developers.