Ableton Live 10 & Jbridge

[218]

Hey All

Does anyone here have experience with Live 10 and Jbridge? Does it work properly or it is ´shoot in the dark´on which plugs might or might not work? Im considering updating from Live Suite 9, but I have numerous 32 bit plugs that I dont wanna part with.

Thanks

[Glyn Darby]

Hi 218,

I have used Jbridge for years with Live 10 and would say it is 95% ok but with certain VST`s it does muck about a bit but for its cost and making 32 bit VST`s non obsolete its a good one.

Cheers,
Glyn.

[218]

@Glyn Darby , Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it:-D Okay, well I think I can live with a 95 % succes ratio:-)

[polac]

So Ableton 10 still has no built-in bit bridge? That's disapointing.

[mcbpete]

Hey man, not everything can be as good as Buzz
(ps. have you had any more luck with the TAL plugins with the GUI menus etc. not appearing using PVSTi ?)

[PieBerger]

So Ableton 10 still has no built-in bit bridge? That's disapointing.

I hope it never gets one, waste of dev time imo. I'd much rather have universally useful stuff like multiclip fades, bounce in place etc, and comping, to encourage more people to drop other DAWs and invest in Ableton either via upgrades or switching over, more so than pandering to people still wanting to use ancient plugins, especially when jBridge already exists.

[tooneba]

It won't waste dev time. They just have to license third party code like they did in Tension, Collision, etc.

[polac]

(ps. have you had any more luck with the TAL plugins with the GUI menus etc. not appearing using PVSTi ?)

I checked it, It's somehow JUCE-related as it seems. But it's simple to fix, you have to disable "embedded vst gui" in the bridge.

[polac]

So Ableton 10 still has no built-in bit bridge? That's disapointing.

I hope it never gets one, waste of dev time imo. I'd much rather have universally useful stuff like multiclip fades, bounce in place etc, and comping, to encourage more people to drop other DAWs and invest in Ableton either via upgrades or switching over, more so than pandering to people still wanting to use ancient plugins, especially when jBridge already exists.

Not that much waste of time imo, other hosts like Reaper or Bitwig or Flstudio did implement it too.

[218]

So Ableton 10 still has no built-in bit bridge? That's disapointing.

I hope it never gets one, waste of dev time imo. I'd much rather have universally useful stuff like multiclip fades, bounce in place etc, and comping, to encourage more people to drop other DAWs and invest in Ableton either via upgrades or switching over, more so than pandering to people still wanting to use ancient plugins, especially when jBridge already exists.

Not that much waste of time imo, other hosts like Reaper or Bitwig or Flstudio did implement it too.

Not at all a waste of time! There is so many great 32 bit plugs thats completely irreplaceable. I honestly think its kinda wierd, that a company like Ableton have decided to wipe out 32 bit support.

[PieBerger]

So Ableton 10 still has no built-in bit bridge? That's disapointing.

I hope it never gets one, waste of dev time imo. I'd much rather have universally useful stuff like multiclip fades, bounce in place etc, and comping, to encourage more people to drop other DAWs and invest in Ableton either via upgrades or switching over, more so than pandering to people still wanting to use ancient plugins, especially when jBridge already exists.

Not that much waste of time imo, other hosts like Reaper or Bitwig or Flstudio did implement it too.

Not at all a waste of time! There is so many great 32 bit plugs thats completely irreplaceable. I honestly think its kinda wierd, that a company like Ableton have decided to wipe out 32 bit support.

But jBridge is already available and for a fair price, for those that need/want it. We are 10 versions in and still don't have basic audio editing tools that are available in literally every other DAW since forever. I wouldn't be against Ableton licensing a third-party solution as mentioned above, but I'd be upset if dev time for a bit bridge was given priority over multiclip fading, bounce in place etc. you know stuff that is useful for everyone not just people stuck in the past

[infrared72]

I'm a little surprised that the ableton people couldn't have just retained the 32 bit vst support. I don't expect it forever but when I see other modern daw hosts (And mini hosts) that Provide for both 32 and 64 bit it makes me wonder why it isn't included in ableton and studio one?

[Rivanni]

I'm a little surprised that the ableton people couldn't have just retained the 32 bit vst support. I don't expect it forever

You said it yourself. Not forever.

[tooneba]

I'm a little surprised that the ableton people couldn't have just retained the 32 bit vst support. I don't expect it forever but when I see other modern daw hosts (And mini hosts) that Provide for both 32 and 64 bit it makes me wonder why it isn't included in ableton and studio one?

Incompetence aka corporate decision making.

[Rivanni]

I'm a little surprised that the ableton people couldn't have just retained the 32 bit vst support. I don't expect it forever but when I see other modern daw hosts (And mini hosts) that Provide for both 32 and 64 bit it makes me wonder why it isn't included in ableton and studio one?

Incompetence aka corporate decision making.

You're right about the decision making, because that's what the corporation Ableton did.

Ableton stopt supporting 32 bit plugins three years ago. Still complaining about this is a waste of time. Time that could've been better spent in updating plugins to 64 bit and/or 'learning' jBridge/32Lives.