hi, I suffered the same "single coil recording imperfection" obsession in the past, have used all possible solutions like denoiser plugins/artifacts/, fender noiseless pickups/still not as clean humbuckers/,etc,etc...by far the most clean and artifactfree solution for me is to use laptop with rme babyface /or similar/ card - I got no hum whatsoever, the only drawback is somehow limited time for recording/it depends on battery/jmm22 wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:20 am I am struggling with getting noiseless recordings of a well overdriven Strat in bridge position. I really don't like the sound of positions 2 and 4, and I've done all of the things that can be done in the room to reduce hum. I've just started trying to learn something about whether there are plugins that can automatically deal with 60 cycle guitar hum. One that came up in a google search was Isotope Denoiser, but I thought I'd also see if I could get an opinion or two from others who have been down this road.
I'm not opposed to buying a plugin, but might like to try something free or as a demo first, to see how well these things work. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Can someone school me on single coil hum denoiser plugins?
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- KVRian
- 1102 posts since 30 Oct, 2005
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- KVRAF
- 1721 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from Indianapolis
The problem is that it isn't just one frequency. Its the fundamental and all of its harmonics. The harmonics may be more noticeable than the fundamental. By the time you line up 10 or 12 narrow notch filters, the original sound is toastclone culture wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:44 pm Can't a good equalizer knock out hum? It's a frequency
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- Banned
- 2524 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
For eq i think apqualizr can do very narrow harmonically related bands. Izotope has dehum that works very well. Any of the spectral learning noise reduction pkugins should work too
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- KVRAF
- 2285 posts since 20 Dec, 2002 from The Benighted States of Trumpistan
There's a classic problem indeed. 60Hz hum sucks. So does interference from active devices. These are different things; even the quietest of humbuckers can pick up noise from other sources. Here are some solutions people used for decades; I hope they'll work for you.
First, the dreaded hum. 50-60 or so Hz, or whatever your local standard is. Try very narrow notch filtering (i.e., parametric EQ) at integer multiples of 50 or whatever Hz. You'll have to play with it a bit... that's life with a Strat.
For ambient EM noise, try subtractive noise reduction. Record your guitar without playing; this gets a sample of the noise. Invert it and mix it with with the actual playing. The downside is that it tends to mess up your high frequencies and can sound kinda unreal, but that can work for you. There are no bad sounds, but there are places where certain sounds are more appropriate.
I'd imagine that something modern and expensive would do even better.
For physical solutions (which I favor), start by shielding and grounding your cavities. This creates a Faraday cage, which shields your guitar from electromagnetic interference. I've even been known to glue tin foil to a board to give me extra protection. Also, try changing the direction or angle at which you play; this can work surprisingly well. After that, try humbuckers and noiseless pickups and dummy coils (they all work on the same basic principle).
First, the dreaded hum. 50-60 or so Hz, or whatever your local standard is. Try very narrow notch filtering (i.e., parametric EQ) at integer multiples of 50 or whatever Hz. You'll have to play with it a bit... that's life with a Strat.
For ambient EM noise, try subtractive noise reduction. Record your guitar without playing; this gets a sample of the noise. Invert it and mix it with with the actual playing. The downside is that it tends to mess up your high frequencies and can sound kinda unreal, but that can work for you. There are no bad sounds, but there are places where certain sounds are more appropriate.
I'd imagine that something modern and expensive would do even better.
For physical solutions (which I favor), start by shielding and grounding your cavities. This creates a Faraday cage, which shields your guitar from electromagnetic interference. I've even been known to glue tin foil to a board to give me extra protection. Also, try changing the direction or angle at which you play; this can work surprisingly well. After that, try humbuckers and noiseless pickups and dummy coils (they all work on the same basic principle).
Wait... loot _then_ burn? D'oh!
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Electric Mayhem Electric Mayhem https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=431668 - KVRist
- 70 posts since 12 Dec, 2018 from On the bus
ThisJafo wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:20 am ...
For physical solutions (which I favor), start by shielding and grounding your cavities. This creates a Faraday cage, which shields your guitar from electromagnetic interference. I've even been known to glue tin foil to a board to give me extra protection. Also, try changing the direction or angle at which you play; this can work surprisingly well. After that, try humbuckers and noiseless pickups and dummy coils (they all work on the same basic principle).
And Telecasters too.There's a classic problem indeed. 60Hz hum sucks...
that's life with a Strat...
Guitar is my third instrument, so I don't play a lot. I made the decision to use only one with humdingers for this very reason, plus of course their fuller tone.
The fundamental cure is to adapt ones playing style on single coil guitars so that your fingers are * always * in contact with something metal: it's quite tricky to do though. That is assuming that everything is grounded correctly.