Best overall software reverb under $250?

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Spring Goose wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:41 pm Oh i have Soundtoys Little Plate and Arturia. Also for larger and or unreal spaces i have Raum, Supermassive, and Blackhole.

I'm looking forward to getting Shimmerverb. I'll just hold down one key or chord and sit back and relax and smile!
Breeze 2 has two formidable plate algorithms as well. They're super dense with metal-like dispersion but the contour and other options let you shape it any way you want. Make sure you explore it thoroughly before investing in other reverbs. Consider pairing it with Precedence for positioning. They work really well together.

Take a look at Xenoverb. It can be very inexpensive on sale, the shimmer algo may be what you're looking for (dual pitch shifters +/- 24 semitones), and it would add some more versatility that you won't find in other reverbs. Of note, Bode has a Moog modular style frequency shifter in feedback (try automating frequency), Glass is a transparent FDN with natural decay up to 20 seconds, and Flow has a bloom effect (think MIDIverb on All I Need by My Bloody Valentine). You can also freeze any algo and automate flushing the reverb (very quick fade). So you can do things like have it bloom for infinity then cut it off before the next section hits as an insert.

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I have to say the biggest surprise for me was FabFilter Pro-R with its many-in-one but still flexible and innovative apporach. I find myself using it more and more with its meaningful knobs like distance or color, which then internally configure the right parameters for me. From the sound I have yet something to find where it doesn't work on.

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yellowmix wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:39 pm
Spring Goose wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:41 pm Oh i have Soundtoys Little Plate and Arturia. Also for larger and or unreal spaces i have Raum, Supermassive, and Blackhole.

I'm looking forward to getting Shimmerverb. I'll just hold down one key or chord and sit back and relax and smile!
Breeze 2 has two formidable plate algorithms as well. They're super dense with metal-like dispersion but the contour and other options let you shape it any way you want. Make sure you explore it thoroughly before investing in other reverbs. Consider pairing it with Precedence for positioning. They work really well together.
Thanks for advice. Tho i can't actually use Breeze atm because i'm using a very cheap computer with integrated Intel graphics which doesn't support OpenGL. I just get a blank box because Breeze uses OpenGL for the GUI. I'd only had Breeze for about 3 days when my computer at the time broke! I'd explored the demo quite thoroughly tho. I thought Breeze sounds just lovely on almost anything i put it onto. I decided against Precedence when i bought Breeze and i can't afford Precedence atm but i'll take another look at it in the future.

yellowmix wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:39 pm
Take a look at Xenoverb. It can be very inexpensive on sale, the shimmer algo may be what you're looking for (dual pitch shifters +/- 24 semitones), and it would add some more versatility that you won't find in other reverbs. Of note, Bode has a Moog modular style frequency shifter in feedback (try automating frequency), Glass is a transparent FDN with natural decay up to 20 seconds, and Flow has a bloom effect (think MIDIverb on All I Need by My Bloody Valentine). You can also freeze any algo and automate flushing the reverb (very quick fade). So you can do things like have it bloom for infinity then cut it off before the next section hits as an insert.
Thanks Xenoverb looks very interesting. It's £17.95 at Plugin Boutique atm. (cheaper than Nimbus)

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Happy Christmas!

Speaking of the spacier reverbs, how do you think the newly released Spaced Out compares?

33 dollars atm.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=557714
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!

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Quite an interesting review of Xenoverb over at BPB: https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2017/1 ... rb-review/
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!

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BTW (and a bit of derailing): AudioThing's new Texture is free throughout December. It's a "granular reverb", so it seems to be great for spacey sounds. So, it's not an allrounder, but should be excellent for atmospheric soundscapes. Check the vid on this page: https://www.audiothing.net/effects/things-texture . I think setting the +12 for the guitar (in the beginning of the video) shows what it can do.
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!

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SparkySpark wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:36 am Happy Christmas!

Speaking of the spacier reverbs, how do you think the newly released Spaced Out compares?

33 dollars atm.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=557714
I've been told it batters your CPU, but then so does Xenoverb.

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Still the 2CAudio stuff for me, especially B2 and Breeze 2.
Then Apple with Logic, lol. Well, its under 250 and you get lots of reverbs and I really love ChromaVerb. Its like a better Pro-R for me actually.

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Spring Goose wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:09 pm
Thanks for advice. Tho i can't actually use Breeze atm because i'm using a very cheap computer with integrated Intel graphics which doesn't support OpenGL. I just get a blank box because Breeze uses OpenGL for the GUI.
There should be no computer made in the last 10-15 years which doesn't support OpenGL.
Maybe you just need to update your graphics card drivers.
Every Intel On-Chip Graphics I had since the last 15 years or so supported OpenGL (PentiumM, Core2Duo etc.).

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SparkySpark wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 9:29 am BTW (and a bit of derailing): AudioThing's new Texture is free throughout December. It's a "granular reverb", so it seems to be great for spacey sounds. So, it's not an allrounder, but should be excellent for atmospheric soundscapes. Check the vid on this page: https://www.audiothing.net/effects/things-texture . I think setting the +12 for the guitar (in the beginning of the video) shows what it can do.
This thing is absolutely fantastic.
AudioThing is a great company.

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The Best (Service) ones, of course!
https://www.bestservice.com/halls_of_fa ... ition.html
[no, I do not know anything about them, but they are IRs of hardware]

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dermage wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:31 pm
Spring Goose wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:09 pm
Thanks for advice. Tho i can't actually use Breeze atm because i'm using a very cheap computer with integrated Intel graphics which doesn't support OpenGL. I just get a blank box because Breeze uses OpenGL for the GUI.
There should be no computer made in the last 10-15 years which doesn't support OpenGL.
Maybe you just need to update your graphics card drivers.
Every Intel On-Chip Graphics I had since the last 15 years or so supported OpenGL (PentiumM, Core2Duo etc.).
No i'm on the latest drivers and it doesn't support the required version of OpenGL

I had to install the Intel® Driver & Support Assistant but no luck. It's a refurb, God knows what they used for it!

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Spring Goose wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:13 pm
dermage wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:31 pm
Spring Goose wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:09 pm
Thanks for advice. Tho i can't actually use Breeze atm because i'm using a very cheap computer with integrated Intel graphics which doesn't support OpenGL. I just get a blank box because Breeze uses OpenGL for the GUI.
There should be no computer made in the last 10-15 years which doesn't support OpenGL.
Maybe you just need to update your graphics card drivers.
Every Intel On-Chip Graphics I had since the last 15 years or so supported OpenGL (PentiumM, Core2Duo etc.).
No i'm on the latest drivers and it doesn't support the required version of OpenGL

I had to install the Intel® Driver & Support Assistant but no luck. It's a refurb, God knows what they used for it!
Best probably to contact 2CAudio, most VST frameworks I know just need a low OpenGL version like 2. Current drivers should support at least 4 mostly, so maybe a bug in Breathe2.

A totally unrelated thing maybe, someone had problems with Intel GPU when having Virtual Memory disabled in Windows System Advanced Settings, had a similar looking problem. By any chance you do have Virtual Memory disabled?

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So have we named every reverb plugin yet?

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dermage wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 6:26 pm
Spring Goose wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:13 pm
dermage wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:31 pm
Spring Goose wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:09 pm
Thanks for advice. Tho i can't actually use Breeze atm because i'm using a very cheap computer with integrated Intel graphics which doesn't support OpenGL. I just get a blank box because Breeze uses OpenGL for the GUI.
There should be no computer made in the last 10-15 years which doesn't support OpenGL.
Maybe you just need to update your graphics card drivers.
Every Intel On-Chip Graphics I had since the last 15 years or so supported OpenGL (PentiumM, Core2Duo etc.).
No i'm on the latest drivers and it doesn't support the required version of OpenGL

I had to install the Intel® Driver & Support Assistant but no luck. It's a refurb, God knows what they used for it!
Best probably to contact 2CAudio, most VST frameworks I know just need a low OpenGL version like 2. Current drivers should support at least 4 mostly, so maybe a bug in Breathe2.

A totally unrelated thing maybe, someone had problems with Intel GPU when having Virtual Memory disabled in Windows System Advanced Settings, had a similar looking problem. By any chance you do have Virtual Memory disabled?
No, virtual memory isn't disabled. Thanks for advice mate.
It was 2Caudio who told me about the OpenGL fault "Breeze 2.x uses OpenGL so if you see white screen then it's a problem with video card drivers. simply try to update to the latest drivers." said 2Caudio.
So i looked to Intel for updated drivers but it says that i'm on the latest drivers.
As well as Breeze, also Vital, Helm, and Dragonfly Reverb do the same (just opens up a blank white box for the GUI).
I can live without it anyway, and this computer will only be a temporary computer. I've said it before in another thread: that i was pleasantly surprised that i'm able to make music at all using this computer!

I don't know if this helps you:

Intel® Q45/Q43 Express Chipset (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM 1.1)
Driver Details
Provider
Intel Corporation
Version
8.15.10.2702
Date
11/3/2013
Device Details
Adapter Compatibility
Intel Corporation
Video Processor
Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family
Resolution
1680 x 1050
Bits Per Pixel
32
Number of Colors
4294967296
Refresh Rate - Current
59 Hz
Refresh Rate - Maximum
75 Hz
Refresh Rate - Minimum
59 Hz
Adapter DAC Type
Internal
Adapter RAM
1.73 GB
Availability
Running at full power
Status
This device is working properly.


& from a support forum:

How To Download OpenGL 2.1 On "Intel Q45/Q43 Express Chipset" On Windows 10
Hello,

Anyone Know How Can I Download OpenGL 2.1 On Intel Q45/Q43 Express Chipset. I Have Windows 10 Home 64Bit Installed. My Drivers Are Updated But I Dont Have OpenGL 2.1. I Have OpenGL 1.1. By The Way My Processor Is Intel Core 2 Duo Dual Core
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No can do...

The Q45/Q43 chipset is long discontinued and not supported on Windows 10. There is no driver update from Intel. The driver for windows 10 is a generic driver from Microsoft, which lacks features and performance. If the driver works for you, good. If not, there is nothing you can do.
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