ADHSR as a Modifier in next 11.x update please

[MattSan]

Recently bought this DAW because it has really nice features and as a first buy i was strongly recommended to get this. But seeing such nice modulation from Bitwig i think it'll be really nice to have more Modifiers to use in Racks and Tracks like Bitwig's Polygrid, and ADHSR should be a nice starting point to make Waveform's Racks an even more powerfull feature of this DAW.

[spoontechnique]

Waveform's Breakpoint modulator is a 4-stage envelope. It can be ADSR, or a few other variations on 1-4 stage envelopes, like ADDR, AD, etc. I'd rather see improvements to that than a new, overlapping modulator. It does lack exponential/logarithmic curve options, or curves generally. And I personally think 6 stages would be better. Mutable Instruments has a eurorack module called Stages that has a really cool take on a 1-6 stage envelope generator.

If you really like modular modulation, Bitwig frankly has Waveform beat. You can definitely do a great deal with Racks, but Bitwig was built from the ground up for that stuff. If Waveform caught up to that level of modular flexibility and modulation polish, I'd be ecstatic, but you can't really compare Bitwig's greatest strength to a relatively small aspect of Waveform.

[MattSan]

Waveform's Breakpoint modulator is a 4-stage envelope. It can be ADSR, or a few other variations on 1-4 stage envelopes, like ADDR, AD, etc. I'd rather see improvements to that than a new, overlapping modulator. It does lack exponential/logarithmic curve options, or curves generally. And I personally think 6 stages would be better. Mutable Instruments has a eurorack module called Stages that has a really cool take on a 1-6 stage envelope generator.

If you really like modular modulation, Bitwig frankly has Waveform beat. You can definitely do a great deal with Racks, but Bitwig was built from the ground up for that stuff. If Waveform caught up to that level of modular flexibility and modulation polish, I'd be ecstatic, but you can't really compare Bitwig's greatest strength to a relatively small aspect of Waveform.

I see, for now i worked around that with 4osc and Envelope Follower, but kinda missing the full control that an ADSR provides, i'm gonna try using Breakpoint because i didn't understand it very well so maybe the feature that i wanted was there all the time. To make a reference point, i want to acomplish what SerumFX does in terms of triggering LFO's and Envelopes with MIDI signals.

[spoontechnique]

Serum's LFOs are just breakpoint modifiers. They do allow many more breakpoints than Waveform. Serum's envelopes do have options for curving between breakpoints, though, which Waveform's Breakpoint modifier lacks. I also don't know how flexible the retriggering options are in Waveform's breakpoints.