2020 was Reason's best year ever, apparently!

[antic604]

I think you are getting me completely wrong. I'm thinking of the small Rack Devices/Extensions in Reason (in 4k and above). A DPI dependent Reason would also resize the sequencer and the mixer, which is not needed according (IMO).

Well, I think:
- both need to be DPI aware & scale accordingly
- chance of having separate scaling for sequencer/mixer and rack is 0%, IMO

[starflakeprj]

I think you are getting me completely wrong. I'm thinking of the small Rack Devices/Extensions in Reason (in 4k and above). A DPI dependent Reason would also resize the sequencer and the mixer, which is not needed according (IMO).

Well, I think:
- both need to be DPI aware & scale accordingly
- chance of having separate scaling for sequencer/mixer and rack is 0%, IMO

I think it would be the easiest road to take for Reason Studios, just making the rack scalable. I mean manually scalable. For the rest they can make it DPI aware. We'll see, eventually (obviously) which road they choose. I really hope they will make an announcement during Q1 a least

[antic604]

I think it would be the easiest road to take for Reason Studios, just making the rack scalable. I mean manually scalable. For the rest they can make it DPI aware. We'll see, eventually (obviously) which road they choose. I really hope they will make an announcement during Q1 a least

Indeed, let's hope they're smart about it. Being (very) late to the game affords them the opportunity to learn on others' mistakes

Anyway, which DAW you're running RRP in and what screen/scaling?

[starflakeprj]

Indeed, let's hope they're smart about it. Being (very) late to the game affords them the opportunity to learn on others' mistakes

Anyway, which DAW you're running RRP in and what screen/scaling?

I'm running it mostly in Studio One, but I'm tempted to run it more in Bitwig since it should be the perfect match. However, Studio One is the DAW I feel most "at home" in.

The screen scaling is at 100% with a resolution of 3840x1600 (38" 21:9).

[mholloway]

Yes. Reason as a primary DAW has been dead for awhile minus a few dedicated groupies, and most of those have moved on. Reason as a VST is the only market they should be focusing on now.

Let me guess: you have exactly ZERO evidence or data to backup these enormous claims regarding the size and state of Reason's userbase.

I'll wait.

[Psuper]

Yes. Reason as a primary DAW has been dead for awhile minus a few dedicated groupies, and most of those have moved on. Reason as a VST is the only market they should be focusing on now.

Let me guess: you have exactly ZERO evidence or data to backup these enormous claims regarding the size and state of Reason's userbase.

I'll wait.

Yes, you can wait. You do that.

[mholloway]

Yes. Reason as a primary DAW has been dead for awhile minus a few dedicated groupies, and most of those have moved on. Reason as a VST is the only market they should be focusing on now.

Let me guess: you have exactly ZERO evidence or data to backup these enormous claims regarding the size and state of Reason's userbase.

I'll wait.

Yes, you can wait.

Thank you for proving my point: your assumptions and assertions are baseless garbage, and when pressed, you have nothing of any value to back them up with, nor any ability to defend yourself.

Here's a hint: post real information, or no information.

[Psuper]

Yes. Reason as a primary DAW has been dead for awhile minus a few dedicated groupies, and most of those have moved on. Reason as a VST is the only market they should be focusing on now.

Let me guess: you have exactly ZERO evidence or data to backup these enormous claims regarding the size and state of Reason's userbase.

I'll wait.

Yes, you can wait.

Thank you for proving my point: your assumptions and assertions are baseless garbage, and when pressed, you have nothing of any value to back them up with, nor any ability to defend yourself.

Here's a hint: post real information, or no information.

People like you aren't worth anyone's time or effort, that's the only point I proved. Keep waiting.

[festeringheap]

He has inside information, he's just keeping it inside

[festeringheap]

According to Reason Studios' CEO

https://twitter.com/niklas_a/status/134 ... 06880?s=19

Well done!

Nice to know that Reason Studios is in good shape. Looking forward to Reason 12 this year!
I wonder if there will be another Suite offering. Not sure what they could include in another Suite, though. Maybe it was a one shot deal?

[antic604]

I wonder if there will be another Suite offering. Not sure what they could include in another Suite, though. Maybe it was a one shot deal?

Well, there's Friktion, Pattern Mutator and PX7 they've surprisingly left out last time. There's also still some time until 12 can come out, so probably 1-2 REs will see light of day until then.

[STIM]

PX7 needs to be a stock device. Reason really needs a dedicated FM synth.

I also hope Friktion gets a brass companion.

[festeringheap]

I wonder if there will be another Suite offering. Not sure what they could include in another Suite, though. Maybe it was a one shot deal?

Well, there's Friktion, Pattern Mutator and PX7 they've surprisingly left out last time. There's also still some time until 12 can come out, so probably 1-2 REs will see light of day until then.

I can't see them adding a Suite 12 with those first two and any brand new 2021 REs. Who the heck is ever going to buy a RE from them again if they heavily discount them in a bundle later on in the year? So the pickings are pretty slim for another "Suite" anytime soon.

I kind of suspect that they really wanted all those older Reason users who didn't upgrade for a while and gave them an offer they couldn't refuse. I know that just the Reason plugin alone was a game changer for many, but the Suite added an extra added incentive to upgrade (or buy) for others.

But maybe they can have a new Rig bundle as a Suite option? With not just Reason Studio products. Who knows?

I'm just not sure what they'll add to the plugin to have worthwhile repeat upgrades. They should probably include hi-rez as a paid reason 12, and not give it away for free in a R11 update.

[antic604]

...Who the heck is ever going to buy a RE from them again if they heavily discount them in a bundle later on in the year? So the pickings are pretty slim for another "Suite" anytime soon...

It's already happened. Go & read the Friktion or Pattern Mutator threads to see lots of people - me included - holding off buying them expecting they'll either be added in Suite or included free in some future version of Reason. And while they wait, they'll spend the money elsewhere, too.

I wish Matthias just came out & said outright what their policy regarding Suite is going forward, but he's too busy playing PS4 & Switch games

[starflakeprj]

This is one of Reason Studio's shady sides of their business strategy. Or, the lack of business strategy, because it sometimes feels they are just improvising as time goes. And this is also their biggest downside, their lack of information. Not the non-scalable GUI, not the feature set of the DAW, but the lack of information they give.

I have been so angry with Reason Studios so many times, and last time was when they released the Reason Studio 11 Suite, and couldn't even answer if there will be any exclusives to the Suite in the future. I asked because there were only 4 Rack Extensions in the Suite I didn't have (Scenic included) when I was stupid enough to upgrade.

A good business strategy towards loyal customers would have been to give some extra discount to those already owning most of the included Rack Extensions in the Suite. Even Arturia do this, and they are almost as irritating sometimes.

According to Mattias (at least 6+ months ago), it was not sure there will be a v12 Suite as they needed to evaluate it first. I really hope the ditch any plans on a Suite, unless it gets features or Rack Extensions that are unique to the Suite.