Renoise 3.3 with VST3 support released!

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THE INTRANCER wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:50 pm
xbitz wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:07 pm
it has to be used with MIDI keyboard, during the recording it automagically creates new phrases(patterns) when you keep pauses on your playing then the recording can be cleaned with another extension after it can be sampled<>resampled/effected, triggered differently by parts/chopped whatever you want
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has a really creative workflow, excel sheet is in it mainly for tweaking/controlling the system not for composing :D check the video, the workflow of it simply can't be reproduced in DAWs
Workflow seems more complicated, slow and painful to learn from how I remember using Octamed back in the 1990's. There is a Scottish guy who does proper video tutorials on Renoise, who would provide a better narrated example of what's going on in how it's done.
^^^ IMO not gonna find a video about noodletrap extension https://www.renoise.com/tools/noodletrap
Noodletrap is a tool that allows easy and precise recording of PC/MIDI keyboards without having to "make room" for a recording - recordings are instead stored within the instrument itself, using instrument phrases."
that's why I've mentioned it, I've created that video 4 years ago even before the time-stretching has been added to it, hopefully will be faster now
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Sorry for the noob question, but what advantages will vst3 bring to Renoise?
In other words, should I install vst3 `as well` as vst2 plugins from now on?

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as I've checked the forum of Renoise, the plugin version of Reason and https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/ were the pain points both exist only VST3 format
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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panspOrmia wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:09 pm Sorry for the noob question, but what advantages will vst3 bring to Renoise?
In other words, should I install vst3 `as well` as vst2 plugins from now on?
Vst3 is apparently better than vst2 in many ways...lots of threads on this, but the main thing is quite a few new VSTs are now only coming out in VST 3 form as VST2 is discontinued and no longer supported.
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True. Perhaps a good reason for me to move on from Win7..

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panspOrmia wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:09 pm Sorry for the noob question, but what advantages will vst3 bring to Renoise?
In other words, should I install vst3 `as well` as vst2 plugins from now on?
Loading vst3’s is one advantage ,new companies can only distribute vst3 .
I personally don’t notice any difference besides the install path .
I only install vst3 if there is no other option available , both can co-exist together.
Do what you prefer to do
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SLiC wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:22 pm
panspOrmia wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:09 pm Sorry for the noob question, but what advantages will vst3 bring to Renoise?
In other words, should I install vst3 `as well` as vst2 plugins from now on?
Vst3 is apparently better than vst2 in many ways...lots of threads on this, but the main thing is quite a few new VSTs are now only coming out in VST 3 form as VST2 is discontinued and no longer supported.
True. The times they are a-changin`.. faaast. Thanks!

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gentleclockdivider wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:57 am
panspOrmia wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:09 pm Sorry for the noob question, but what advantages will vst3 bring to Renoise?
In other words, should I install vst3 `as well` as vst2 plugins from now on?
Loading vst3’s is one advantage ,new companies can only distribute vst3 .
I personally don’t notice any difference besides the install path .
I only install vst3 if there is no other option available , both can co-exist together.
Do what you prefer to do
Makes sense. Gonna stick with my vst2 plugs (for now).. thx!

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Slightly off topic, is Redux part of Renoise or these things are usually bought together?

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worldshaker wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:21 am Slightly off topic, is Redux part of Renoise or these things are usually bought together?
I bought them both.. separately. Renoise is a DAW, while Redux is a vst plugin (with less functions than Renoise). Either way, I love both.. and glad I got them. They`re amazing pieces of software..

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THE INTRANCER wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:50 pm
xbitz wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:07 pm
it has to be used with MIDI keyboard, during the recording it automagically creates new phrases(patterns) when you keep pauses on your playing then the recording can be cleaned with another extension after it can be sampled<>resampled/effected, triggered differently by parts/chopped whatever you want
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has a really creative workflow, excel sheet is in it mainly for tweaking/controlling the system not for composing :D check the video, the workflow of it simply can't be reproduced in DAWs
Workflow seems more complicated, slow and painful to learn from how I remember using Octamed back in the 1990's. There is a Scottish guy who does proper video tutorials on Renoise, who would provide a better narrated example of what's going on in how it's done.
If you could post a link to one of those tutorials, I'd really appreciate it. I have Renoise, but have no idea where to start with it.

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Renoise is still one of the cooler DAWs out there. Very much built for computers with the old school tracker input, yet still integrated with more modern things like VSTs, and very accessible too considering you can get by just fine with ignoring a lot of the tracker commands. :phones:

The excellent, and dare I say best in the business, UI customization is just icing on the cake. :party:

Nice to see a pulse of life with an update. 8)
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(double post) :dog:
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bharris22 wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:43 am
THE INTRANCER wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:50 pm
xbitz wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:07 pm
it has to be used with MIDI keyboard, during the recording it automagically creates new phrases(patterns) when you keep pauses on your playing then the recording can be cleaned with another extension after it can be sampled<>resampled/effected, triggered differently by parts/chopped whatever you want
>>
has a really creative workflow, excel sheet is in it mainly for tweaking/controlling the system not for composing :D check the video, the workflow of it simply can't be reproduced in DAWs
Workflow seems more complicated, slow and painful to learn from how I remember using Octamed back in the 1990's. There is a Scottish guy who does proper video tutorials on Renoise, who would provide a better narrated example of what's going on in how it's done.
If you could post a link to one of those tutorials, I'd really appreciate it. I have Renoise, but have no idea where to start with it.
IMO it's about Composing Gloves,
but I would start it from its own channel, at first with the Renoise 3 Beginner's Tutorial playlist then the rests
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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worldshaker wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:21 am Slightly off topic, is Redux part of Renoise or these things are usually bought together?
If you buy Renoise you get a discount on Redux (which is already cheap) so it’s a bit of a no brainier if you also use other DAWs (but not needed if you only use Renoise).
X32 and 24C mixers, S88MK3, Live + PUSH 3, Osmose, RedShift 6, Pro3, S4, Tempera, Syntakt, Digitone, OP1-F, OPXY, TR-1000, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!

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