Your opinion about Zebra 2

[zvenx]

Hi all, thanks for your help. Based on your advice and the demo's, I finally went for Hive 2. (Yeah @zvenx, you were right ). I'm very happy with it, but already know that I'll buy Diva when it'll be in a sale in the future. But first I'm going to enjoy programming Hive...

Great.
Most welcome.
At the very least Hive is the one all geared for the most immediate update.
rsp

[Dust_NL]

I bought Diva for myself, on your behalf

In that case, can I borough it sometime? Pleeeaaase...

[Dust_NL]

Great.
Most welcome.
At the very least Hive is the one all geared for the most immediate update.
rsp

Really? Glad that I chose Hive then!

[zvenx]

For Hive 2.1 we expand the filter choices, among a few other small goodies.

Set to come soon..

We expect this to go beta soon (unfortunately not before the holidays...) and possibly get released in late January. Also depends on how well the transition to Apple Silicon works (looking good so far) and how caught up the QA is with the support for this sale (they can't test while answering a hundred emails a day...).

rsp

[frackermak]

Bit off topic..

I recently picked up Zebra & Dark Zebra in the NI sale.
Instantly used patch Lupins / HS Digression from Zebra2 in my new song. Trouble is, it badly phases in and out when the song is played in mono.
Is it possible to fix this without completely losing the feel of the sound when played in stereo?

Cheers.

[Viktor [TUC]]

Hi frackermak,

in that patch you'll want to replace the SB3 Module in the FX grid with maybe a phase and/or a panner. That would retain some form of stereo movement without killing it in mono.

I did a quick test, see attached file. But please customize those new FX settings to your liking, by no means is the result identical to the original. Cheers!

[surreal]

Hi UC Is there any tutorials where I can do harp and nylon guitar synthesis in Zebra?

[PieBerger]

Hi UC Is there any tutorials where I can do harp and nylon guitar synthesis in Zebra?

One of the Zebra mini series tutorials on the u-he YT is for a Sitar patch, that might point you in the right direction.

[frackermak]

Hi frackermak,

in that patch you'll want to replace the SB3 Module in the FX grid with maybe a phase and/or a panner. That would retain some form of stereo movement without killing it in mono.

I did a quick test, see attached file. But please customize those new FX settings to your liking, by no means is the result identical to the original. Cheers!

Thank you very much! I'll try it over the weekend

[GRUMP]

Picture Richie Hawtin on a pony and what else you could do with that ammo. And is techno about Synth sounds again?

Not quite sure if this will help me decide...

That was a bit .. am... cynic.?

But however - when I think of that name I remember the earth shaking and no Diva singing

Now I know what you mean But.... Richie is using a lot of 303/808/909 and modular stuff. Does a modular synth produce no synth sound, according to you?

Don't tell Urs that you want to abuse Diva for 303 stuff. But hey - I have already made quirky sounds with a Trinity, so why not?

[GRUMP]

Picture Richie Hawtin on a pony and what else you could do with that ammo. And is techno about Synth sounds again?

Not quite sure if this will help me decide...

That was a bit .. am... cynic.?

But however - when I think of that name I remember the earth shaking and no Diva singing

Now I know what you mean But.... Richie is using a lot of 303/808/909 and modular stuff. Does a modular synth produce no synth sound, according to you?

Ok infront of a real keyboard right now, cynism down to 10%.

To be honest first: I have no clue what he does today, but I assume that he still plays in the ballpark he earns the most money with.?

But however - Diva is no modular system and Zebra just if you forget about the limitations it´s shipped with. But it is no toy. We were all told that HZ prefers it over others. And they can both not be compared with Rolands most legendary toyboxes (that usually just deliver the impulses in a more or less complicated signal chain. Already back then).

It´s difficult to come to the point with this topic without making it too complicated. But let´s just state that club/dance music is neither about complex patterns nor about sound delicacies. The kicks and hats are usually too loud, the compression too concise and so on.

Richie´s music is (resp. has been) rather made of simple patterns (to just flip out to). You can (and people like him frequently did) sample single squeaks, map them besides each others and sequence them in the end (#metoo).

I have no clue how you could make senseful use of a modular systems capabilities for such a track (despite of generating complex timbres). But I know for sure that not just a few people in the dance sector are completely satisfied with Abletons sound mangeling capabilities - although Abletons synths are for sure no perfect recreations (or maybe just because of that reason).

[vurt]

I have no clue how you could make senseful use of a modular systems capabilities for such a track

same as you do "in the box"
sequencing/sound sources/modulation/fx processing
it's all available in modular.

probably not gonna do many full live sets with several distinct tracks involving repatching though

but even as you suggest, sampling grooves is also doable with even a small modular set up.
richie/deadmau5 and a few others use them that i know of, and in all different ways. it's just another "weapon in the arsenal"

[frackermak]

Hi frackermak,

in that patch you'll want to replace the SB3 Module in the FX grid with maybe a phase and/or a panner. That would retain some form of stereo movement without killing it in mono.

I did a quick test, see attached file. But please customize those new FX settings to your liking, by no means is the result identical to the original. Cheers!

Thanks again for this.
Used your new patch. Sounds great.
https://soundcloud.com/screamershock/gethsemane-groove

[GRUMP]

I have no clue how you could make senseful use of a modular systems capabilities for such a track

same as you do "in the box"
sequencing/sound sources/modulation/fx processing
it's all available in modular.

probably not gonna do many full live sets with several distinct tracks involving repatching though

but even as you suggest, sampling grooves is also doable with even a small modular set up.
richie/deadmau5 and a few others use them that i know of, and in all different ways. it's just another "weapon in the arsenal"

Thanks for reminding me that there are modules for everything. That is right. But people mostly chose the more simple solution (like Ableton).

I was curious what he does today. Discogs - 2020 ... "Time Warps".... Youtube... thin "Rotterdam kick"-opening - and he shall please prove that I´m wrong, but the depressing synthax I´ve heard afterwards reminded me of VSTs of the 2005-Generation. He´d have wasted his money if he´d really have bought a mudular system to make such tracks.

I´m one of those Nihilists who still don´t know what "analogue" shall really be and know for sure that everybody means different things with that term - but I´ve heard and made enough already to know that you don´t need much more than Reason to make such a "flatliner".

Btw really disappointed of the development this man has made. He´s sold the spirit

[gentleclockdivider]

Imho everything he released after artifakts was rubbish .
Nothing beats the old sheet one , Musik .
Tripped my balls off during the 90's