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antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:58 pm

I've noticed something in Slynk's video that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere: selecting 2+ clips (from the same track) and opening the editor shows both clips at once continuously as they are on the timeline! That's definitely not how v10.x works, right? How well it's implemented? Does it work as good like it does in Bitwig or S1 (or practically any other DAW, to be honest). Next to inability to edit audio in Session View, this was one of the QoL features that were really missing in Live.

(go to 36:30)

And also, how far they're from release you think? Reading the latest release notes it seems they're wrapping it up

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:25 pm

Linked-track editing on audio and midi tracks was one of the headline features for me along with comping.
b23 was just a couple of days ago and yes, I would say its very close- to be hones its been rock solid for me and I am not even award of the bugs they are fixing now!

Live 11 is definitely my faveroute Live release since 4!

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:53 pm

SLiC wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:25 pmLinked-track editing on audio and midi tracks was one of the headline features for me...

No, I'm not talking about this. Have you watched the 36:30 of the video I posted? It's not really even mentioned here. It's like Bitwig's detail editor mode switching between 'clip' and 'track'.

ReleaseCandidate · Post by **ReleaseCandidate** » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:28 pm

antic604 wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:58 pm I've noticed something in Slynk's video that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere: selecting 2+ clips (from the same track) and opening the editor shows both clips at once continuously as they are on the timeline! That's definitely not how v10.x works, right?

It has been like that for like forever, I'd say.
Of course not when editing clips from the session view.

WatchTheGuitar · Post by **WatchTheGuitar** » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:22 pm

New features and improvements:
...
The option to upload to SoundCloud has been disabled.

Oh thank god this feature/improvement has come along.

Rivanni · Post by **Rivanni** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:12 am

ReleaseCandidate wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:28 pm
antic604 wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:58 pm I've noticed something in Slynk's video that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere: selecting 2+ clips (from the same track) and opening the editor shows both clips at once continuously as they are on the timeline! That's definitely not how v10.x works, right?
It has been like that for like forever, I'd say.

Not entirely. In Live 10 you can select 2+ midi clips but you can only edit one at the time. That's why in Live 10 the clips that are not selected are greyed out in the editor.
In Live 11 all the selected clips in the arrangement view act as one midi clip. So you can select notes from the different clips and then for example transpose, quantize or apply a groove. You can't do that in Live 10.

ReleaseCandidate · Post by **ReleaseCandidate** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:17 am

Rivanni wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:12 am
ReleaseCandidate wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:28 pm
antic604 wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:58 pm I've noticed something in Slynk's video that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere: selecting 2+ clips (from the same track) and opening the editor shows both clips at once continuously as they are on the timeline! That's definitely not how v10.x works, right?
It has been like that for like forever, I'd say.
Not entirely. In Live 10 you can select 2+ midi clips but you can only edit one at the time. That's why in Live 10 the clips that are not selected are greyed out in the editor.
In Live 11 all the selected clips in the arrangement view act as one midi clip. So you can select notes from the different clips and then for example transpose, quantize or apply a groove. You can't do that in Live 10.

Oh, you're right, I actually did use that feature in 11 already, IIRC

andypryce · Post by **andypryce** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:22 am

Rivanni wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:12 am
ReleaseCandidate wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:28 pm
antic604 wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:58 pm I've noticed something in Slynk's video that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere: selecting 2+ clips (from the same track) and opening the editor shows both clips at once continuously as they are on the timeline! That's definitely not how v10.x works, right?
It has been like that for like forever, I'd say.
Not entirely. In Live 10 you can select 2+ midi clips but you can only edit one at the time. That's why in Live 10 the clips that are not selected are greyed out in the editor.
In Live 11 all the selected clips in the arrangement view act as one midi clip. So you can select notes from the different clips and then for example transpose, quantize or apply a groove. You can't do that in Live 10.

It still shows and let you edit one clip's velocity at a time , also envelopes and mpe tabs get hidden when multi clips are selected. Would be great if they change this behavior.

melomood · Post by **melomood** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:27 am

F*ck
They added the follow feature. Now I kinda have to go for the upgrade

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:15 am

Rivanni wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:12 am
ReleaseCandidate wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:28 pm
antic604 wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:58 pm I've noticed something in Slynk's video that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere: selecting 2+ clips (from the same track) and opening the editor shows both clips at once continuously as they are on the timeline! That's definitely not how v10.x works, right?
It has been like that for like forever, I'd say.
Not entirely. In Live 10 you can select 2+ midi clips but you can only edit one at the time. That's why in Live 10 the clips that are not selected are greyed out in the editor.
In Live 11 all the selected clips in the arrangement view act as one midi clip. So you can select notes from the different clips and then for example transpose, quantize or apply a groove. You can't do that in Live 10.

Again - watch the video. I'm talking about 2+ clips selected FROM THE SAME TRACK.

ozinga · Post by **ozinga** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:25 am

antic604 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:15 am Again - watch the video. I'm talking about 2+ clips selected FROM THE SAME TRACK.

Yes in Live 10 only one midi clip is highlighted and editable. The other is gray.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:32 am

Different tracks/same track multi linked clip editing is new in 11.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:44 am

SLiC wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:32 am Different tracks/same track multi linked clip editing is new in 11.

Yet again, I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.

When ableton says "linked" they mean the new feature of linking (grouping) tracks for editing, so that moving clips, editing fades, stretching clips is synchronised.

I'm talking about this, where you see consecutive clips on track in editor below. Before 11 you could only see one clip, or 2+ clips OVERLAID on each other, but now they're displayed in proper sequence:

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:45 am

ozinga wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:25 am
antic604 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:15 am Again - watch the video. I'm talking about 2+ clips selected FROM THE SAME TRACK.
Yes in Live 10 only one midi clip is highlighted and editable. The other is gray.

NOT what I'm talking about, although I agree that this also changed (for the better) in v11

ozinga · Post by **ozinga** » Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:09 am

antic604 wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:44 am
SLiC wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:32 am Different tracks/same track multi linked clip editing is new in 11.
Yet again, I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.

When ableton says "linked" they mean the new feature of linking (grouping) tracks for editing, so that moving clips, editing fades, stretching clips is synchronised.

I'm talking about this, where you see consecutive clips on track in editor below. Before 11 you could only see one clip, or 2+ clips OVERLAID on each other, but now they're displayed in proper sequence:

I think what I said is what you asked for. In Live 10 the second clip you marked in orange looks gray and they are in arrangement order.

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Ableton Live 11