KNIFONIUM synth released

[BONES]

Plenty of reasons why would you. Different target medium, i got a bunch of files i need to work with in different sample rate, client asks for a high sampling rate, etc

Those are rubbish reasons. If a client wants something at a specific sample rate, you resample it once you've made it at your chosen sample rate.

It doesn't make sense for tools to behave so differently as you switch sampling rates.

No, it doesn't but it's hardly a problem. Weird, certainly, but not a problem.

Most modern VST synths retain majority of the character from 44.1 to 192.

I'll take your word for it, I always work at 48kHz.

[Ploki]

Plenty of reasons why would you. Different target medium, i got a bunch of files i need to work with in different sample rate, client asks for a high sampling rate, etc

Those are rubbish reasons. If I client wants something at a specific sample rate, you resample it once you've made it at your chosen sample rate.

It doesn't make sense for tools to behave so differently as you switch sampling rates.

No, it doesn't but it's hardly a problem. Weird, certainly, but not a problem.

Most modern VST synths retain majority of the character from 44.1 to 192.

I'll take your word for it, I always work at 48kHz.

err okay. not really sure why someone would try to justify an obvious bug, but here we are.
Well, the problem for me was unresponsive laggy filter at 44.1/48 when modified with external input.
The response is good at 4x sampling rate.
i don't feel comfy using such plugins, even my freebie synths are more consistent. Also begs the question what else they might have missed.
Doesn't need to bother you or anyone else, but don't try to convince me that it's normal - it's not, and don't try to convince me it's not a bug - it's a bug, left unfixed july.

No, it doesn't but it's hardly a problem. Weird, certainly, but not a problem.

and we've looped back to

I guess that's where the cost of plugin is reflected in the end - maintenance and CS.
It's a calculated cost. Most people wont notice and wont care, and there'll be another plugin released in a month that will take most of the spotlight so a lot of things can slide, that can't if you have a smaller catalogue. If only 20 out of 500000 subscribers complain, you can refund them, give them a voucher, or simply ban them from facebook - you're making good money in the end.
Same goes for the ticket response.

[aMUSEd]

KNIFONIUM does sound awesome. I only wish it was NKS compatible.

It is

Damn, don't know how I overlooked this. Thank you.

Something I have just tested in bx Oberhausen is the NKS export, which is brilliant. My Kniphonium demo has expired so I can't try it now, but can anyone confirm if it has the same NKS export feature? Wish I had tried it sooner now but at the time I wasn't that impressed.

[BONES]

err okay. not really sure why someone would try to justify an obvious bug, but here we are.

Yes, it's a bug but you were saying you think Brainworx should be onto it but I can see exactly why they don't bother. You fix the things that stop people doing their work, not esoteric bugs that nobody will ever encounter.

[LoveEnigma18]

KNIFONIUM does sound awesome. I only wish it was NKS compatible.

It is

Damn, don't know how I overlooked this. Thank you.

Something I have just tested in bx Oberhausen is the NKS export, which is brilliant. My Kniphonium demo has expired so I can't try it now, but can anyone confirm if it has the same NKS export feature? Wish I had tried it sooner now but at the time I wasn't that impressed.

It even has NKS export - something I’ve only come across elsewhere with u-he plugins (not had a chance to test how well it works yet though)

Yes, but shouldn't that be common for all NKS compatible plugins? IIRC, all NKS compatible plugins' presets can be saved as .nksf format. So, it should indeed work for Knifonium too. I will check today and let you know.

PA does mention this about bx_oberhausen though, which is not mentioned on Knifonium page, but I believe it's just that the text is missing there.

In-Plugin Preset Management with NKS support

The preset management system allows you to categorize your presets for easy retrieval. You can mark favorites and add your own comments.The bx_oberhausen comes fully loaded with over 300 presets created by the most renowned professionals.The preset management system is fully NKS compliant and nicely integrated with NKS-enabled products.

[aMUSEd]

KNIFONIUM does sound awesome. I only wish it was NKS compatible.

It is

Damn, don't know how I overlooked this. Thank you.

Something I have just tested in bx Oberhausen is the NKS export, which is brilliant. My Kniphonium demo has expired so I can't try it now, but can anyone confirm if it has the same NKS export feature? Wish I had tried it sooner now but at the time I wasn't that impressed.

It even has NKS export - something I’ve only come across elsewhere with u-he plugins (not had a chance to test how well it works yet though)

Yes, but shouldn't that be common for all NKS compatible plugins? IIRC, all NKS compatible plugins' presets can be saved as .nksf format. So, it should indeed work for Knifonium too. I will check today and let you know.

Yeah all NKS compatible plugins can have presets saved by Komplete Kontrol as .nksf, but what I mean is the Oberheim plugin can export a whole bank of patches itself, and generate previews, in one export operation. No other plugin can currently do that. The Oberhausen browser is one of the best patch managers I have come across in a plugin, really well implemented.

[Audio Voltage]

Thanks for sharing @aMUSEd. This is indeed very useful information. I wish a lot more devs would implement such a nice feature.

[aMUSEd]

It even has the ability to import .nksf patches and convert them back to its own format. I just wish Plugin Alliance would use this in all their other plugins - would love to see it in Unfiltered Audio LION and DS Thorn for example.

[LoveEnigma18]

That really great to know, thanks. I will check it at out as soon as I get a chance. I agree, it would be awesome to have the same system for all the virtual instruments at PA.

[Ploki]

Yes, it's a bug but you were saying you think Brainworx should be onto it but I can see exactly why they don't bother. You fix the things that stop people doing their work, not esoteric bugs that nobody will ever encounter.

Filter automation = extreme esotericism
it's okay buddy, we've all been there. cognitive biases are biatch

[BONES]

Comprehension not your strong suit at school? I wasn't responding to his comment about filter automation although, again, it's something I will never encounter, I can guarantee you of that.

[plexuss]

One of the best things to happen to Knifonium is Plugin Guru's Unify - multiple instances of Knifonium can be mixed within Unify - so far my various sound design attempts have been glorious! I passed on Knifonium after demoing it - its ok but up until for me, has not been worth it. One thing I noticed was a similar sound character to Air's Vacuum. With my PA discounts I can get it for $50. Now with Unify, its well worth that! And, PluginGuru has "Unified" the Knifonium's patches which makes it easier to load mulitple factory preset layers. it also comes with a handful of multi-knofonium patches, for free!

[BONES]

I'm not sure I get it - what does Unify bring to the party? It just looks like a mini-host application that works inside your DAW. I have no trouble using 4 or 5 instances of Knifonium in Studio One, what would Unify add for me?

Coincidentally, I spent an hour or so last night with Knifonium, which I'd kind of forgotten about. Man, it's amazing! I absolutely love the way it sounds. Patches like Damaged Brass are just incredible. It's quite easy to use, too. If you can get it for $50, I'd grab it immediately if I were you.

[Tj Shredder]

A DAW like Bitwig for example would make Unify obsolete.
The whole concept is made for sound designers who want to create layered sound sets and be able to sell them... That is also why the love free synths...

[plexuss]

That was my inital feeling on learning about Unify, as well... why would I need this I can do it in a daw (Reaper). But then I tried it. There are many reasons why, for me, Unify blows away a daw for layering. I wont go into all the details unless you want. One concept is that Unify can load Unify - so you can do nested layering. It all happens within a plugin as well and Unify has good UX/UI, something rare in plugins these days. Then there is the ability to save plugin synth presets as Unify presets so later its much easier to load them as layers.... the sound is incredible. It's more about the workflow optimization than anything. It's also good at threaded CPU management - all the plugins running under Unify may be better managed than what the daw can do, depending on your daw.

Anyway, I think its amazing, for me. It might be a complete waste of time for you. I'd say try out the trial and see what you think.

For example I just put together a Unify patch that has 55 plugins working as one instrument. it includes 5 Plasmonics, 4 Knifoniums, Boz's new El Clapo and Das Boot, Microtonic a couple factory presets, all with instruments and buss effects. It's all saved in one patch that I can, now, simply load as a preset in Unify. The patch is transportable to others that have the same plugins. That's the beauty of the bundled free plugins - it allows the sound designer to use them in the context of Unify presets thus insuring a baseline of sound capability for everyone that uses it. I feel Unify brings new life into plugins because it provides an easy to use, transportable, high performance framework for laying plugins you already own - I at least find it's breathing new life/capabilities I didn't have before because it was otherwise tedious to do. YMMV

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