SonicBirth

zmix · Post by **zmix** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:21 am

I just updated my studio computer to OSX 10.15.7 Catalina and I was very pleased to discover that all of the 64 bit SonicBirth plugins I had exported using 1.3.5 worked perfectly.

I had one however that would not show up in Logic 10.6.1 but was present in the components folder (which was copied from my OSX 10.14.6 startup drive).

I decided to re-export the AU component so I loaded the file in SonicBirth and exported the AU.
It didn't show up in a forced AU re-scan.

When I looked at the exported component file, I saw that it was only 614 bytes..

The original component had been 314kb

I booted up my computer in OSX 10.14.6 Mojave, launched SonicBirth and re-exported the file, it was 314kb, and when I dragged it into the components folder on the OSX 10.15.7 Catalina drive, it validated and showed up fine in Logic.

It seems that there is a bug in the AU export routine when running in Catalina, but if you can use an earlier OS to do the compiling it works fine.

Kewl · Post by **Kewl** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:18 am

Yes, I noticed that a few weeks ago. True in macOS 10.15 and 11.0. So now I have 10.14.6 virtual machine that I use to export SonicBirth AU plug-ins. It's also true that SB AU plug-ins, once exported from pre-10.15 OSes, will work in 10.15 and 11. VSTs are OK.

Yesterday, I tested SonicBirth 1.3.5 app (and framework) on a M1 MacBook Air: through the miracle of Rosetta 2, it works. Haven't tested an actual plug-in though, or export for that matter.

To go back to the subject, clearly there are resources that SB relies upon that are missing or locked, or something... I wrote an email to Antoine two weeks ago about the situation, but didn't send it. Not sure if I can convince him this time around...

zmix · Post by **zmix** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:47 pm

Kewl wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:18 am Yes, I noticed that a few weeks ago. True in macOS 10.15 and 11.0. So now I have 10.14.6 virtual machine that I use to export SonicBirth AU plug-ins. It's also true that SB AU plug-ins, once exported from pre-10.15 OSes, will work in 10.15 and 11. VSTs are OK.

Yesterday, I tested SonicBirth 1.3.5 app (and framework) on a M1 MacBook Air: through the miracle of Rosetta 2, it works. Haven't tested an actual plug-in though, or export for that matter.

To go back to the subject, clearly there are resources that SB relies upon that are missing or locked, or something... I wrote an email to Antoine two weeks ago about the situation, but didn't send it. Not sure if I can convince him this time around...

Thanks for the reply. You've done exactly what I was hoping to test if (when) I get an M1 based mac.
I am very curious to know if - via Rosetta 2 - SB exports are valid on their own -is a virtual machine required? I am not sure I fully grasp how Rosetta 2 functions.. I'm very happy that you've managed to get that to work via 10.14.6. I'd love to learn more about it if you have any links..!

I am inclined to see if Antoine might be encouraged to unlock some of this if we can present him with a carefully studied analysis of what we're experiencing.

Kewl · Post by **Kewl** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:13 pm

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scottfthompson · Post by **scottfthompson** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:43 pm

I got sonic birth (1st version) running just fine on an M1 Big Sur as well. Some plug ins definitely work, but some don't. Re-exporting installing seems to work if you are able to load up the sonic birth files first. I think it's just the Mac security seeing the file was created by your computer that helps...

Sonic birth designer as a plug in in logic crashes quiet a bit, but so does almost everything else in logic as well...

zmix · Post by **zmix** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:56 pm

Scott, are you saying that you have Sonicbirth 1.31 running in OS 11?

Kewl · Post by **Kewl** » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:59 pm

He's using 1.3.5.

zmix · Post by **zmix** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:24 am

Ah, confusing as he's calling it the 1st version..

zmix · Post by **zmix** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:26 am

Sadly, probably the "last" version in fact..

zmix · Post by **zmix** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:26 pm

I've noticed that my Sonicbirth 1.3.5 plugins Audio Units in OSX 10.15.7 "Catalina" do not appear in Logic's Plug-In Manager unless they are in the "root" level components folder (/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components). I have been installing them in the "user" level components folder (/Users/cutsummer name here/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components) up until now...

Q-mii · Post by **Q-mii** » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:29 pm

Where can I find this elusive 1.3.5? I'm looking for ways to understand synth development for Mac.

Kewl · Post by **Kewl** » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:57 pm

Q-mii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:29 pm Where can I find this elusive 1.3.5?

Contact me.

hypersonic1990 · Post by **hypersonic1990** » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:10 pm

1.3.5? What

hypersonic1990 · Post by **hypersonic1990** » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:10 pm

Kewl wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:57 pm
Q-mii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:29 pm Where can I find this elusive 1.3.5?
Contact me.

You have Pm

AndrewJones · Post by **AndrewJones** » Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:22 pm

I'm having trouble finding 1.3.5 as well if anyone want to help me out. thx!

SonicBirth

KVR Audio

Interesting post-Catalina (OSX 10.15.7) / SonicBirth 1.3.5 discovery