Hive 2.1 public beta 01 revision 10837
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tasmaniandevil tasmaniandevil https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62450
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1735 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
Warning:
We discovered one potential issue with this beta version, rev. 10837.
If you save a host project, please make sure that you do not have assigned any mod matrix modulation slots to the scope. This might lead to a crash when trying to reopen the project.
Hi everyone,
winterly greetings from the u-he headquarters.
The days are short, the nights are long, so we thought we bring a first Hive 2.1 beta along.
While there are still lots of things to do, we decided it's about time you get your hands on the new Hive version.
Downloads:
Hive 2.1 beta 10837 Mac
Hive 2.1 beta 10837 Win
Hive 2.1 beta 10837 Linux
The jump from 2.0.1 to 2.1 might seem small, but don't get fooled by the numbers.
There are lots of goodies included this time.
We've got new filter modes (yes, including a comb filter).
The shape sequencer can be halted to freely modulate its position.
You can choose from a variety of predefined keyboard scales, and lock them.
Mod matrix modulation signals can now be visualized in the scope, so you can inspect how the signal is shaped by the matrix.
And next to a gazillion of UI improvements in the regular skin, Hive is getting a fresh new skin.
Izmo has been created by the insanely creative GUI designer Plugmon.
It provides a drastically different look and workflow, letting you experience and explore Hive as if it was a completely new synth, sparking your creativity in exciting new ways.
One goal of this beta is to get as much of your feedback for the new skin as possible.
Izmo is still work in progress, and Plugmon will join the discussion to collect your requests and refine the skin, if needed.
For this purpose we created a separate thread solely dedicated to discussing the Izmo skin.
If you want to join the discussion, please hop over to this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=559586
Of course, we also want your opinion on all the new Hive features, and the UI improvements in the regular Hive skin.
And if you encounter any strange behaviour or bugs, don't hesitate to let us know.
Everything related to Hive 2.1 can be discussed right here in this thread.
Please note that this beta version does not yet come with support for the Apple M1 chips.
We are still working on implementing Silicon support, and plan to have another public beta once this is done.
But wait, there is one more thing to test (at least for our Mac users).
As you might know, some users are experiencing problems with sluggish or lagging GUIs for some time now.
We spent the last two months trying to come up with a solution for this, and identified some settings which can drastically improve the GUI rendering.
As this problem heavily depends on a multitude of known and unknown factors, we need you to test these options, so we can find out which settings are working best on all kinds of system configurations.
If you have been affected by this issue, please give it a try and let us know which settings work best for you.
Just hop over to this thread to discuss everything related to the Mac GUI performance:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=559587
And finally, here is an overview of the changes since version 2.0.1, rev. 9709:
Improvements:
* macOS Big Sur compatibility
* macOS 32bit support discontinued
* New Izmo skin by Plugmon
* New filter modes (Comb, Dissonant, Reverb, Sideband)
* New filter stereo offset parameter ("spread" in mod matrix)
* Pan parameters for delay and reverb effects (in mod matrix)
* Shape sequencer position modulation option (Halt)
* Adjusting modulation depth in matrix highlights targets
* Improved wavetable loading for large WT collections
* Improved note-stealing behaviour with sustain pedal
* Scope can display mod matrix modulation
* New preference for XY auto-assign
* Keyboard scales lockable
* Keyboard scale selection
* Soundset installer support
* Browser: Bank name feature added
* Browser: Alternative search method using wildcards
* Browser: Reveal in Finder/Explorer behaviour improved
* Improved module preset saving (Mac only)
* Improved GUI performance (Mac only)
* Many small GUI adjustments
Bug Fixes:
* Fixed: Notes starting on same time stamp but different MIDI channel might not play
* Fixed: Wavetable names didn't have full UTF8 support (Windows only)
* Fixed: Random modulation source nonfunctional on effect parameters
* Fixed: Shape sequencer one by one mode start position inconsistent
* Fixed: LFO envelope trigger behaviour inconsistent
* Fixed: Wavetable missing dialog not working for .wav files
* Fixed: Numerous fixes and improvements in preset browser
* Fixed: Clock modulation acting erratic in FL Studio
* Fixed: XY auto-assign quirks
Known Issues:
* Installer and plugin still display version 2.0.1
* Manual has not been updated yet
* Context menus need plugin focus to work (Apple issue)
* AAX GUI gamma issue if Draw Async is set to YES (Mac only)
Cheers,
Tas
We discovered one potential issue with this beta version, rev. 10837.
If you save a host project, please make sure that you do not have assigned any mod matrix modulation slots to the scope. This might lead to a crash when trying to reopen the project.
Hi everyone,
winterly greetings from the u-he headquarters.
The days are short, the nights are long, so we thought we bring a first Hive 2.1 beta along.
While there are still lots of things to do, we decided it's about time you get your hands on the new Hive version.
Downloads:
Hive 2.1 beta 10837 Mac
Hive 2.1 beta 10837 Win
Hive 2.1 beta 10837 Linux
The jump from 2.0.1 to 2.1 might seem small, but don't get fooled by the numbers.
There are lots of goodies included this time.
We've got new filter modes (yes, including a comb filter).
The shape sequencer can be halted to freely modulate its position.
You can choose from a variety of predefined keyboard scales, and lock them.
Mod matrix modulation signals can now be visualized in the scope, so you can inspect how the signal is shaped by the matrix.
And next to a gazillion of UI improvements in the regular skin, Hive is getting a fresh new skin.
Izmo has been created by the insanely creative GUI designer Plugmon.
It provides a drastically different look and workflow, letting you experience and explore Hive as if it was a completely new synth, sparking your creativity in exciting new ways.
One goal of this beta is to get as much of your feedback for the new skin as possible.
Izmo is still work in progress, and Plugmon will join the discussion to collect your requests and refine the skin, if needed.
For this purpose we created a separate thread solely dedicated to discussing the Izmo skin.
If you want to join the discussion, please hop over to this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=559586
Of course, we also want your opinion on all the new Hive features, and the UI improvements in the regular Hive skin.
And if you encounter any strange behaviour or bugs, don't hesitate to let us know.
Everything related to Hive 2.1 can be discussed right here in this thread.
Please note that this beta version does not yet come with support for the Apple M1 chips.
We are still working on implementing Silicon support, and plan to have another public beta once this is done.
But wait, there is one more thing to test (at least for our Mac users).
As you might know, some users are experiencing problems with sluggish or lagging GUIs for some time now.
We spent the last two months trying to come up with a solution for this, and identified some settings which can drastically improve the GUI rendering.
As this problem heavily depends on a multitude of known and unknown factors, we need you to test these options, so we can find out which settings are working best on all kinds of system configurations.
If you have been affected by this issue, please give it a try and let us know which settings work best for you.
Just hop over to this thread to discuss everything related to the Mac GUI performance:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=559587
And finally, here is an overview of the changes since version 2.0.1, rev. 9709:
Improvements:
* macOS Big Sur compatibility
* macOS 32bit support discontinued
* New Izmo skin by Plugmon
* New filter modes (Comb, Dissonant, Reverb, Sideband)
* New filter stereo offset parameter ("spread" in mod matrix)
* Pan parameters for delay and reverb effects (in mod matrix)
* Shape sequencer position modulation option (Halt)
* Adjusting modulation depth in matrix highlights targets
* Improved wavetable loading for large WT collections
* Improved note-stealing behaviour with sustain pedal
* Scope can display mod matrix modulation
* New preference for XY auto-assign
* Keyboard scales lockable
* Keyboard scale selection
* Soundset installer support
* Browser: Bank name feature added
* Browser: Alternative search method using wildcards
* Browser: Reveal in Finder/Explorer behaviour improved
* Improved module preset saving (Mac only)
* Improved GUI performance (Mac only)
* Many small GUI adjustments
Bug Fixes:
* Fixed: Notes starting on same time stamp but different MIDI channel might not play
* Fixed: Wavetable names didn't have full UTF8 support (Windows only)
* Fixed: Random modulation source nonfunctional on effect parameters
* Fixed: Shape sequencer one by one mode start position inconsistent
* Fixed: LFO envelope trigger behaviour inconsistent
* Fixed: Wavetable missing dialog not working for .wav files
* Fixed: Numerous fixes and improvements in preset browser
* Fixed: Clock modulation acting erratic in FL Studio
* Fixed: XY auto-assign quirks
Known Issues:
* Installer and plugin still display version 2.0.1
* Manual has not been updated yet
* Context menus need plugin focus to work (Apple issue)
* AAX GUI gamma issue if Draw Async is set to YES (Mac only)
Cheers,
Tas
Last edited by tasmaniandevil on Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
That QA guy from planet u-he.
- KVRAF
- 3054 posts since 25 Apr, 2011
IN LOVE!!! Those filters are so much fun!
Wish the Izmo UI was darker. Won't use it because the amount of white.
The lay-out is okay though
Wish the Izmo UI was darker. Won't use it because the amount of white.
The lay-out is okay though
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- KVRian
- 666 posts since 9 Mar, 2001
Nice!! Damn, the instant gratification monkey just took over my day.
Could someone explain what the other cool new filter types does? (Dissonant, Reverb, Sideband)
I just tested them out and I really like the gritty sound of Sideband!
Could someone explain what the other cool new filter types does? (Dissonant, Reverb, Sideband)
I just tested them out and I really like the gritty sound of Sideband!
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tasmaniandevil tasmaniandevil https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62450
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1735 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
- KVRAF
- 2374 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide
this is great news. Hive is such a good synth. RE: Sound set installer support - is there any special format sound banks need to be saved in for this/will our existing presets work?
Dune 3 presets! - https://newloops.com/collections/dune-presets
Diva, Hive, Repro, Presets - https://newloops.com/collections/u-he-synths-presets
185 Omnisphere Presets https://newloops.com/products/omnispher ... -2-presets
Diva, Hive, Repro, Presets - https://newloops.com/collections/u-he-synths-presets
185 Omnisphere Presets https://newloops.com/products/omnispher ... -2-presets
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- KVRian
- 699 posts since 18 May, 2007 from Berlin
All older presets will still work and can still be "installed" the old way, i.e. by copying things into specific target folders, and all older instructions from existing soundsets will still be correct.Biome_Digital wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:04 pm ...RE: Sound set installer support - is there any special format sound banks need to be saved in for this/will our existing presets work?
We simply offer a new alternative installation method, but we need to prepare some instructions and examples first, then talk to sounddesigners about how to convert existing soundsets to the new format, if they wish to adopt it. More on that in the coming weeks, mostl likely.
Viktor
- u-he
- 28065 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Existing presets and preset banks work normally. We're just adding a tool that makes installation easier, but once installed is identical to existing presets and stuff.Biome_Digital wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:04 pm this is great news. Hive is such a good synth. RE: Sound set installer support - is there any special format sound banks need to be saved in for this/will our existing presets work?
(Ah, TUC beat me to it... ok)
- KVRAF
- 18561 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Yet the Mod and Amp Envelopes are still swapped.tasmaniandevil wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:34 pm next to a gazillion of UI improvements in the regular skin
Anyway I'm grateful for the new Filters.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRAF
- 2374 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide
Great, looking forward to more info. Just playing with the new filters, great work guys!!The unshushable Coktor wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:13 pmAll older presets will still work and can still be "installed" the old way, i.e. by copying things into specific target folders, and all older instructions from existing soundsets will still be correct.Biome_Digital wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:04 pm ...RE: Sound set installer support - is there any special format sound banks need to be saved in for this/will our existing presets work?
We simply offer a new alternative installation method, but we need to prepare some instructions and examples first, then talk to sounddesigners about how to convert existing soundsets to the new format, if they wish to adopt it. More on that in the coming weeks, mostl likely.
Viktor
Dune 3 presets! - https://newloops.com/collections/dune-presets
Diva, Hive, Repro, Presets - https://newloops.com/collections/u-he-synths-presets
185 Omnisphere Presets https://newloops.com/products/omnispher ... -2-presets
Diva, Hive, Repro, Presets - https://newloops.com/collections/u-he-synths-presets
185 Omnisphere Presets https://newloops.com/products/omnispher ... -2-presets
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The Nerdy Music Guy The Nerdy Music Guy https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=475847
- KVRist
- 172 posts since 7 Oct, 2020
tasmaniandevil wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:31 pmSet the shape sequencer Time Base value to "Halt".
Now you can select "Shape Sequencer Position" as a target in the mod matrix to freely modulate it.
That's awesome! Even though it's possible now, it would still be nice to have non-tempo related rates for the Shape Sequencers some day maybe.
I know, you can use a constant modulation to the rate, but that way, the preset will still sound different at different song tempos.
The usual .1s, 1s and 10s options would already be enough.
Seems like a great update! Can't wait to check it out
Awesome work
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- KVRist
- 163 posts since 25 Aug, 2003 from Germany
I hope that I understand you correct. If you use a saw up LFO to modulate step sequencer position when set to halt mode then the LFO speed controls how fast the sequencer steps run through.The Nerdy Music Guy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:30 pm That's awesome! Even though it's possible now, it would still be nice to have non-tempo related rates for the Shape Sequencers some day maybe.
I know, you can use a constant modulation to the rate, but that way, the preset will still sound different at different song tempos.
The usual .1s, 1s and 10s options would already be enough.
- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
I am on macOS 11.2b2 on a maxed-out Macbook Pro 16".
The UI is extremely laggy when using the Izmo skin. All controls are jerky and slow to respond, almost to the point of being unusable.
Tested the AU, VST2, and VST3. UI scale is set at 100%. Tested in Bitwig and Hosting AU. Gamma at neutral. Anti aliasing both on and off with no difference in performance.
The Original skin is much better. Not quite as smooth as 2.0.1, though.
Video showing the behavior: https://f001.backblazeb2.com/file/mwdie ... owness.mov
The UI is extremely laggy when using the Izmo skin. All controls are jerky and slow to respond, almost to the point of being unusable.
Tested the AU, VST2, and VST3. UI scale is set at 100%. Tested in Bitwig and Hosting AU. Gamma at neutral. Anti aliasing both on and off with no difference in performance.
The Original skin is much better. Not quite as smooth as 2.0.1, though.
Video showing the behavior: https://f001.backblazeb2.com/file/mwdie ... owness.mov
CLAP Software Database: https://clapdb.tech. KVR Discussion Topic.
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The Nerdy Music Guy The Nerdy Music Guy https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=475847
- KVRist
- 172 posts since 7 Oct, 2020
Yeah, that way I lose an LFO, thoughBeachboy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:42 pmI hope that I understand you correct. If you use a saw up LFO to modulate step sequencer position when set to halt mode then the LFO speed controls how fast the sequencer steps run through.The Nerdy Music Guy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:30 pm That's awesome! Even though it's possible now, it would still be nice to have non-tempo related rates for the Shape Sequencers some day maybe.
I know, you can use a constant modulation to the rate, but that way, the preset will still sound different at different song tempos.
The usual .1s, 1s and 10s options would already be enough.
It's not terribly important, but it would still be amazing to just have unsynced Shape Seq rates.
- u-he
- 28065 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
You'd be a perfect candidate to have a look at our other testing thread. I reckon the first option will completely change your experience:teilo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:52 pm I am on macOS 11.2b2 on a maxed-out Macbook Pro 16".
The UI is extremely laggy when using the Izmo skin. All controls are jerky and slow to respond, almost to the point of being unusable.
Tested the AU, VST2, and VST3. UI scale is set at 100%. Tested in Bitwig and Hosting AU. Gamma at neutral. Anti aliasing both on and off with no difference in performance.
The Original skin is much better. Not quite as smooth as 2.0.1, though.
Video showing the behavior: https://f001.backblazeb2.com/file/mwdie ... owness.mov
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