loopcloud and arcade keep crashing

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like the title says both of these plug ins crash every time i open them. i'm on a mac and i'm using the latest version of waveform pro 11. i've tried validating them but nothing works. any ideas? they work perfectly in my ther daws but, i want to use waveform.

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As far as Arcade goes, it's made by Output and I know for sure their Movement plug-in doesn't work well in Waveform and I think I saw a report here that another one of theirs didn't work either. It's probably just a systemic flaw for Output plugins that some DAWs can ignore and others can't.

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maybe the developers could look into this?

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I find that the developers don't often look into specific plugin issues when they're brought up through the forum. You will probably need to contact support.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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