DUNE 3 is now available!!

[AnX]

maybe if certain sound designers ask for it, he might do it, that seems to work for everything else....

I assume that he´d gladly deliver tomorrow if it would be that easy.

Please s. o. correct me if I´m wrong - but I know back- and frontend development as two completely different skills. And aren´t frontends frequently affected by updates (like the last win update!) and in so far time consuming and risky from a companys perspective.?

To say it clearly: I have stopped dreaming. I work with what I have and Dune is aweseome. I know several synths that offer more like a great preset browser, but they are fails when it´s about quality. I own just one of them and the rest of my bunch ... I mean just look at Harmour. It doesn´t even display the filename - but it´s unique and sounds fine.
The sample import is a really big thing for me personally - round about > 100 GB are waiting for implementations - but it´s all multisamples. We´ll see now.

building a new browser is a massive amount of work....

if you are thinking of buying anything, buy it for what it is now, not what it may become

nothing wrong with feature requests, but demo versions are there for a reason, and everything is sold "as is" (bug fixes excluded)

often it gets overlooked that it's the silent majority who are happiest, you only hear from the few who want a change...

[GRUMP]

often it gets overlooked that it's the silent majority who are happiest, you only hear from the few who want a change...

That. And people somehow try to find something to nag about, even if it´s just a matter of taste like the GUI (ilike - just like the file browser. I feel at home and have full control. Am I uncool now??). Anti-marketing grumbler-attacks? There are defintely some people with vested interests around here and they seem to like topics like GUI or Apple - probably because they don´t need many braincells or SD experience for such minor issues.

[vurt]

it's also constantly being improved (in general) the devs are working full time on these things even if an update only happens ocassionally. it's not like one day he thinks ooh ill add a filter and boom its done!
there isn't an infinite amount of time to work and only so many things on a list will get added, because the dev thinks other features were more important to add.

[zvenx]

And of course they are those who think if it works for me/I dont have a problem with it, it must be that way for everyone else unless something is wrong with them.

Rsp

[vurt]

And of course they are those who think if it works for me/I dont have a problem with it, it must be that way for everyone else unless something is wrong with them.

Rsp

there's many sides to the battle.
only one king though

[BONES]

To me, having a few more ADSR envelopes makes perfect sense.

Yet you appear incapable of expressing even a single reason for it.

I just need more of them.

So you're seriously suggesting that six envelopes isn't enough? Colour me skeptical. But if I were you, I'd be asking for a one-shot mode in the LFOs, which will give you three extra envelopes, because I reckon you'll have a better chance of getting that than more envelopes. It's more likely to pique Rich's interest, I think.

But maybe this is exactly why the synth sounds so good - the developer just wants to spend his time on the sound, not the UI. Ideally he'd hire people for that side - because if he did address these points, the synth would be unbeatable.

That pretty much hits the nail on the head. Rich has little interest in, or time for, GUI-related stuff. He gets Marcin, his off-sider, to do most, if not all of that work. It' almost impossible to engage him on anything GUI or workflow related, he is so into his DSP programming. That's why I've given up on DUNE betas.

[GRUMP]

And of course they are those who think if it works for me/I dont have a problem with it, it must be that way for everyone else unless something is wrong with them.

Rsp

To be honest: I usually don´t use >75% of a modern Synth - but I know why they exist. For sure. And I don´t think that something is wrong with the people. Not generally. Some a maybe a bit lazy (and never worked with a 30 digits display) - but that´s fine, too. It brings us progress. But respecting the way people nag about the GUI+browser here doesn´t leave much space for understanding. That is simply off topic.

Has anybody mentioned yet that the OSC pitches the samples quiet well? I have tested Dune vs Halion and had much less aliasing with Dune, unless in HALs "extreme" Mode (which I didn´t like as much as Dune). You can pitch samples down by 50 Semitones and still have a good result. Thumbs up - waiting for 3.5

[BONES]

What annoys me is that people complain about something or ask for something without providing any detail or explanation, so it's hard to put yourself in other people's shoes. If I was making a feature request, it would include a use-case for it, so that the dev would see not just what I wanted, but why I wanted it. "I want more envelopes" carries little weight because DUNE already has 6 of them, which is more than 90% of other synths that people (not just me) seem to manage with OK. A little bit of explanation can engender understanding.

[cytospur]

What annoys me is that people complain about something or ask for something without providing any detail or explanation, so it's hard to put yourself in other people's shoes. If I was making a feature request, it would include a use-case for it, so that the dev would see not just what I wanted, but why I wanted it. "I want more envelopes" carries little weight because DUNE already has 6 of them, which is more than 90% of other synths that people (not just me) seem to manage with OK. A little bit of explanation can engender understanding.

It actually has 20 envelopes.

[canadian_moose]

Just to be clear, I love Dune 3.
An improved browser would, for me, would be the icing on the cake. A “nice to have”.
It’s certainly not a showstopper in any way whatsoever.

[BONES]

For me it's just one more thing to add to the list of reasons I never think to reach for DUNE. But if I was only allowed to make one suggestion, it wouldn't be that. I'd rather see improvements in the workflow, like getting rid of the centre "display", putting the ARP down the bottom with the keyboard, FX,LFO and MSEGs and improving the way oscillators are displayed. It won't happen, though.

It actually has 20 envelopes.

48, really - (2 ADSR + 4 MSEG) x 8 layers. Or are the MSEGs shared between layers? Either way, it still serves to reinforce my point that if it's not enough, it would be nice to know why.

[dermage]

If we're talking about feature requests:
a better wavetable browser would be great. Just a bit cumbersome to always have to click and select the wavetable from the drop down list.

[BONES]

What way would be better?

[canadian_moose]

Does anyone else see a fairly noticeable delay / lag when switching through patches on the VST3 version? VST2 is fine in this regard. (Im on Live 10)

[Dasheesh]

if we are here i must chime in. dive into my history and i've said the same from day one. this synth should never have been a dual filter synth. it was always a single filter synth from day one. edm just couldn't help themselves. i stuck with it because it still sounds beautiful and i know how to work it. the moment you push it into vengeance territory it gets sold tho. if i wanted that i would have bought that. if i ever did go that route, russians will claim my music as their own.