Well, Arturia gave away the initial version of the Mini V. Then the upgraded/final (so far) version came either from that or as part of one of the V Collections I bought.briefcasemanx wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:06 am1. How did you get all that for free?planetearth wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:51 amInteresting. Of the synths you mentioned, which would you say got you the closest to an actual Minimoog Model D sound (assuming you have an accurate reference)? Over time, I've somehow collected the Mini V (the original and updated versions), Monark, Moog's Model D app, IKMM's Syntronik Memory-V (which I know is more of a Memorymoog emulation) and even a Behringer Model D -- all for free. I'm not a Moog enthusiast, but I'm always interested in learning about the synth and its history.Arashi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:05 pmMini V isn't terrible. It just isn't as good as the other emulations I mentioned.ecasasmusic2 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:47 pm You may be right but to be fair you have to compare it with the real MiniMoog , not with Legend, Monark, etc. This is copy-paste of a comment I read recently in another forum from a person that did the real side-by-side comparison.
"This is just a general observation. I recently repaired a Moog Voyager and had it in my studio for a while. This is something many cannot do but I compared it to Arturia Mini V. Side by Side. If you are wondering is the actual Voyager way better then Mini V the answer is that it is not. In fact I can get the two of them sounding so close to each other its literally impossible to tell them apart. That says a lot about the quality of Arturia software. They HAVE done an amazing job of replicating these things. I can get Mini V to produce the same earth shattering floor shaking bottom end the Voyager does."
As for comparing it to a Voyager, well, the Voyager is not a Model D (it's a modern reimagining of it, and it wasn't well received), and it's not what Arturia was attempting to emulate. Fortunately, you don't have to own a Minimoog to know what they sound like, because it's the most famous synth of all time. They were so pervasive in the 70s and early 80s that many people called every synthesizer a "Moog" (in the same way that many people call all facial tissues "Kleenex").
Here's one of my favorite Minimoog basslines:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWurqD68u70
I've made this patch with Mini V, The Legend, Monark, Model 72, and Moog's own Model D app. The patch I made with Mini V sounds pretty decent…until I compare it with the other emulations, and then it's immediately obvious that it doesn't sound anywhere near as good.
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Steve
2. What's your opinion since you have a behringer as comparison, which seems to sound closer than any of the plugins?
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I have most of the minimoog plugins but I have no idea which sounds closest to the real thing but I personally think the Arturia moog stuff sounds completely fine.
In a similar way, Monark came with NI's Komplete 11, which I bought for Kontakt 5, Battery 4 and some of the other instruments. (I guess Monark was factored in to the upgrade price for Komplete 11, but I was going to buy that anyway. And since I almost never use Monark, I don't really think about having paid for it, though technically I did.)
IKMM gave away the Memory-V to spur some interest in Syntronik. (I think they also gave away a Minimoog Model D, but I missed that.) I also have IKMM's SampleMoog, which I got as part of a "Group Buy", so I guess that was technically free, too! I just don't use it anymore, since SampleTank 3 (and now ST4) can load the SampleMoog sounds directly.
Last June(?), Moog gave away the iOS app for Model D, ostensibly to make our lives easier as we entered "lockdown".
Finally, a friend very graciously and generously bought and gave me the Behringer Model D for helping him rebuild his PC. (It took many hours because we were doing it via FaceTime with him in San Diego and me in Tampa.)
As I mentioned, I'm (ironically) not really a Moog enthusiast -- their synth heyday was about 4 years before I started getting into synths. I don't have any hands-on experience with a "real" Moog -- except for the one they made for RadioShack. (And I just got Cherry Voltage Audio's emulation of that for free a few weeks ago!)
Frankly, I have more damn Moog synths/emulations/samples than anyone really needs -- especially anyone who's more into programmable/polyphonic/MIDI-compatible/"digital" synths, or at least, synths from 1982 to 2002. I should probably stop grabbing Moog freebies or start learning to use the damn things properly!
All that said, I'd say the Behringer is the closest to the "real" Model D as far as features and sound. But I'm only basing that on what I've heard from compressed audio in YouTube videos or Spotify streamed audio. I'm with you though, in that the Arturia sounds completely fine. It's the easiest (for me) to use in a track, and I defy anyone to tell the difference in a mix. The Behringer is fun to play with, especially routing audio through it. But not being able to play more than one note at a time -- and having to pull up the photo on my phone to see the settings of a sound I used in a project -- is less convenient than I'm used to. But it's great for getting some cool sounds from it, even if you don't entirely know what you're doing!
Steve