Tal J-8

[zvenx]

Ahhh..
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[Yorrrrrr]

v1.3.2 still doesn't fix my issues with 'stepping' of some parameters, mainly 'env mod' and 'PW mod' (they're not continuous or smooth).

[DuX]

I just watched the 6/8 comparison video, and I wish they could be combined. 8 especially misses the 2nd LFO so much. But being able to combine waveforms is also incredibly nice.

It's kinda like the difference between OB-X and OB-Xa. Didn't Synapse Audio combine the two in their Obsession? That's where the power of software really shows - you can make the dreams come true, and what's the most important make the old synth be able to make sounds beyond its original capabilities!

[EvilDragon]

Nope Synapse didn't quite combine the two. Theirs is OB-Xa with doubled voice count (optionally). OBX still sounds the best out of the OBs.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Also, the J-6 and J-8 use different osc's, filters, different (digital vs analog) envelopes, the 6 has that second LFO...they're called Jupiter's and look similar, but I think that video shows pretty clearly they're two completely different synths. Not just a "little brother" type of deal.

If you were modeling a Jupiter-6, you'd likely be starting entirely from scratch.

[EvilDragon]

The filter is actually the same as in Jupiter-8, IR3109. It's just configured differently.

[TheHelioSequence]

I just watched the 6/8 comparison video, and I wish they could be combined. 8 especially misses the 2nd LFO so much. But being able to combine waveforms is also incredibly nice.

It's kinda like the difference between OB-X and OB-Xa. Didn't Synapse Audio combine the two in their Obsession? That's where the power of software really shows - you can make the dreams come true, and what's the most important make the old synth be able to make sounds beyond its original capabilities!

I think they only took the cross mod from the OB-X. They didn’t model the OB-X oscillators or filters or anything else.

[DuX]

The filter is actually the same as in Jupiter-8, IR3109. It's just configured differently.

I also wouldn't agree about the envelopes being digital, maybe just a bit different. However, the OSCs are definitely different, there is no doubt, as the guy said in the video.

[EvilDragon]

Envelopes and LFOs are definitely digital in Jupiter-6, vs analog envelopes in Jupiter-8.

[JoeCat]

Damn, had to purchase

Not the sexiest patch but damn if a little crossmod doesn't go a long way to getting a round, Rickenbacker bass tone, with that little touch of harmonic distortion (courtesy of nothing - this is straight JP-8) that helps it sit in the mix.

(I'm always suprised listening to isolated bass tracks - even with P and Jazz basses, how much distortion is typically added to get the bass to punch through on smaller speakers - a trend going back in the 70s).

Probably never use it, but fun to patch. It's like the 80s, only now I kinda know what I'm doing.

https://soundcloud.com/joe-cat/jp-8-bass

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Nice patch!

[DuX]

Envelopes and LFOs are definitely digital in Jupiter-6, vs analog envelopes in Jupiter-8.

I didn't know that. So 6 is full of ICs. Roland cutting corners to sell more. That's a shame. But it still sounds great. Thanks ED. Oh well, there's no doubt our J-8's envelopes are digital, however VA digital.

[EvilDragon]

Well it's not a shame because they are a bit better quality in JP-6 than the quantized ones from Alpha Juno etc... And they even have a nice mild S-shaped curve rather than linear.

Still sounds great, doesn't matter if envelopes are digital! Not all digital envelopes are the same.

[JoeCat]

Well it's not a shame because they are a bit better quality in JP-6 than the quantized ones from Alpha Juno etc... And they even have a nice mild S-shaped curve rather than linear.

Still sounds great, doesn't matter if envelopes are digital! Not all digital envelopes are the same.

u-He Diva has models for both the digital and analog envelopes, and for digital a selection between the quantized and curve versions, but I have to admit I usually don't recall hearing much of a difference except in a few patches, though I haven't played with sound design in Diva lately (will need to now!).

I suppose it's one of those things you don't notice much until you do for a particular sound, then you can't not notice it, and then you're the guy going on about it while everyone else asks why it's a big deal. Sometimes it's better NOT to have the choice

[Arashi]

I didn't know that. So 6 is full of ICs. Roland cutting corners to sell more. That's a shame.

Making it cheaper was the whole point of the Jupiter-6.