Adding "Grit" or "Rasp" to Vocals - any vst plugin suggestions appreciated

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Dirtgrain wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:23 pm Also, some years ago, I saw articles and videos about a vocal coach who had been teaching rock and roll and heavy metal types on how to scream-sing without ruining their vocal cords/throats. I wonder if some of her techniques might assist one in getting the gravel sound. I always wondered how that Linkin Park singer could do those prolonged screaming parts.
That might have been: https://www.thomann.de/gb/alfred_publis ... ng_dvd.htm

I have it, it's ok. A bit too much extra fluff that they could have cut out, but the techniques and demonstrations are good.

Yeah, learning to add a bit of "fry" to your vocals could be exactly what you're after. It's not that hard to learn, just takes some practice.

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Aloysius wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:07 pm
HansP wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:47 pm
plz listen to Warren Huart where he explains the "penis thickener" techniques. (free on YT)
you have to fine-tune for your own situation.
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that's what the industry does, and that's what those asking here, are after.

you have a bunch of parallel copies:
- a set of harmonizer tracks, elastic again, +/- 3,6,9,12 cent, panned alternately so both sides are in balance and don't get different pitch. route them to a sub, so you can automate them with one fader.
- a VERY distorted track, with different options of treatment, e.g. hipassing at 7-9k, or equalizing a bit softer, and you may cut off above 12k or something, depends totally on the input vocal and the basic style of the track. use sansamp or certain saturators. a different version of that uses less distortion but a high compression ratio + gain reduction.
- a track with octave shift down (use "elastic" algo). makes a more beastly type of "husky" sound than the harmonizers. it should not be audible in the mix, but it changes the feeling.

then, add these very subtly to the main vocals, and perhaps also to reverbs and delays. automate them according to the flow of the song.
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Since you mentioned Blockfish here are some cheap/free possible alternatives.
iZotope Trash 2 for $9 now at
https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/438-Trash2
It's mostly known for its extreme distortions but it does mild very well too, has a decent built in compressor and lots of presets to get you started. You also get AAS Object Delay for free with any purchase.

For free try Audio Damage Rough Rider 3.
https://www.audiodamage.com/pages/free-downloads
Last edited by Steve Bolivar on Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:44 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Thanks again to everyone who has contributed to this thread - especially those who have done so multiple times. I will take into account all of the suggestions. Trying to alter my voice using different techniques (but not smoking!), vocal thickening techniques, saturation and possibly other plugins etc. Loads to try here. It's been so helpful given I am coming back to this after such a long time away.

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Check out Waves CLA Vocals. It might be what you're looking after.

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A nice transformer style distortion works well at adding some "buzz" to vocals. You can look at some transfer functions (look at various nice sounding preamps and their analysis online) and then draw them in with a nice waveshaper. A multiband waveshaper works well for this. I use the Melda one with oversampling. The other fun thing about this is you can play with your performance while monitoring non destructively through the processor/ processors to see if the interplay of your voice and plugins can get closer to your sound. I've found that using the proximity effect to drive a low mid waveshaper can really pop out certain parts of a performance.
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Accentize PreTube (vintage setting)
Dub it up blacker than dread

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