One Synth Challenge #144: Rand by Sampleson (schiing Wins! kylebenjamin grabs the single instance prize!)
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- KVRist
- 246 posts since 1 Oct, 2015
Hello. OSC is a good place to learn new things, in addition to having fun, that's why I wanted to share a link to a video on YouTube about compression in drums - and in general really - that has helped me to clarify some things and I think it may be of useful to some participants in this OSC community. I leave it in OSC- general discussion thread:
viewtopic.php?p=8034134#p8034134
viewtopic.php?p=8034134#p8034134
- KVRist
- 383 posts since 3 Oct, 2019
Would you mind sharing some pointers on how to get that kick? I've gotten nowhere near a kick like that.Medniex wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:51 pm Despite some annoying bugs this is not the worst synth in my experience. At least it is quite easy to get the sounds you want or even find the sounds you want
https://soundcloud.com/medniex/osc-144-rev02
- KVRian
- 820 posts since 9 Jun, 2020
I've got a couple here that might help:
The sweet spot is in Detune between about 0.1 and 1.1
The sweet spot is in Detune between about 0.1 and 1.1
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- DASH Guy
- 7951 posts since 20 Sep, 2001
My Rand entry is:
https://soundcloud.com/liqih/undone-refrain
23 Rand synth.
Made in Ableton Live + Ableton EQ Reverb Delay Compressor.
Max 1 as non Ableton plugin.
[uploaded again with a better FLAC, perhaps] I'm afraid that the mix could sound too bright to a younger ear than mine, please let me know.
https://soundcloud.com/liqih/undone-refrain
23 Rand synth.
Made in Ableton Live + Ableton EQ Reverb Delay Compressor.
Max 1 as non Ableton plugin.
[uploaded again with a better FLAC, perhaps] I'm afraid that the mix could sound too bright to a younger ear than mine, please let me know.
- KVRist
- 163 posts since 5 Dec, 2017 from New Mexico
It doesn't sound to bright to my ears, don't know if that helps since they're near 60 years old. I think its fine and a lovely track too.liqih wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:25 pm My Rand entry is:
https://soundcloud.com/liqih/undone-refrain
[uploaded again with a better FLAC, perhaps] I'm afraid that the mix could sound too bright to a younger ear than mine, please let me know.
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- DASH Guy
- 7951 posts since 20 Sep, 2001
MalToné, that helps. Thanks!
- KVRian
- 575 posts since 27 Oct, 2015
Yeah, I'll second that - no brightness problems from where I'm sitting (not particularly young ears here either, though).MalToné wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:00 pmIt doesn't sound to bright to my ears, don't know if that helps since they're near 60 years old. I think its fine and a lovely track too.liqih wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:25 pm My Rand entry is:
https://soundcloud.com/liqih/undone-refrain
[uploaded again with a better FLAC, perhaps] I'm afraid that the mix could sound too bright to a younger ear than mine, please let me know.
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- DASH Guy
- 7951 posts since 20 Sep, 2001
I can say "job done" then. Thanks!
- KVRist
- 383 posts since 3 Oct, 2019
What filetype is .hpa, and how can I open it? It seems some kind of binary. The Rand proprietary .preset on the other hand is xml, which is editable in a text editor.Double Tap wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:39 pm I've got a couple here that might help:
Kicks.hpa.zip
The sweet spot is in Detune between about 0.1 and 1.1
Edit:
Okay, I found out, it's a collection of presets from Rand, which you can import via the 'more'-button in the 'open/save' menu...
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- KVRist
- 383 posts since 3 Oct, 2019
Weeeelll, actually, the down sweeping effect sound is rather piercing... That might be intentional, but it's on the brink of beeing unpleasant.
- KVRian
- 820 posts since 9 Jun, 2020
Yeah it was just how it allowed me to export them. Glad you got it sorted.SeBaer wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:42 pmWhat filetype is .hpa, and how can I open it? It seems some kind of binary. The Rand proprietary .preset on the other hand is xml, which is editable in a text editor.Double Tap wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:39 pm I've got a couple here that might help:
Kicks.hpa.zip
The sweet spot is in Detune between about 0.1 and 1.1
Edit:
Okay, I found out, it's a collection of presets from Rand, which you can import via the 'more'-button in the 'open/save' menu...
- KVRist
- 121 posts since 16 Apr, 2017 from Rīga
In case you are struggling, one way is to scroll through the thread and look if anyone has shared any patches I have done it many times and I did it this time as well.
Check this out:
viewtopic.php?p=8023689#p8023689
Rand is not that difficult for making a kick, but I'm glad I was that lazy initially because reusenoise approach is to layer a kick from 3 parts. And it was first time for me to try out such technique. This is how you learn from others
Most of the time you want to modulate pitch, filter, amplification with a fast attacking envelope. But as mentioned earlier in this thread by others, only one type of filter works, so you pick that Biquad option. And of course EQ-ing and compression afterwards helps a lot.
- KVRAF
- 3008 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Croatia
SOooo...I thought about having another play with Rand, happily start goofing around only to realize that I start battling the tuning like with ancient analogue gear that travels across climate-zones and can't be wrestled into proper pitch, haha. SOOooo strange, really. The first go I had at it was totally innocent and just sort of worked out, probably because I was assuming it wouldn't. Now that I was sure it would be no problem, it misbehaved relentlessly, hahaha. ...I did, however, get much tighter drums for some reason, but that was about all I managed to get right.
Really a curious thing this.
Really a curious thing this.
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- KVRAF
- 2165 posts since 7 Mar, 2014
Yeah MrT, I remember Tangerine Dreams's Moog equipment having to be set up and left running for a day or so before the concert in York Cathedral (Minster). Roadies hurrying around replacing those modules which went badly out of tune! In the end it all worked with NO external reverb units used, the natural reverb in the cathedral being 16 seconds! Fab concert, part of the "Richochet 3 cathedral Tour".
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