better way for get track to track midi-in, than with the note-reciever?

[antic604]

I wish if there’s also a “send to” device
for midi & audio.

This is useful eg. in a song that has dub step beats or break beats which you want the kick & snare to be used as side chain but each has different effects. in other words this is useful for summing a bunch of midi channels or tracks at certain position in the chain to one track. unlike the track’s send.

It can be used also to control several tracks at one time in case on note fx.

I’m not whether it might consumes CPU or not.

You can do all of that currently with either track *Receiver devices or modulators. Or be more specific, please.

[horizon7]

I wish if there’s also a “send to” device
for midi & audio.

This is useful eg. in a song that has dub step beats or break beats which you want the kick & snare to be used as side chain but each has different effects. in other words this is useful for summing a bunch of midi channels or tracks at certain position in the chain to one track. unlike the track’s send.

It can be used also to control several tracks at one time in case on note fx.

I’m not whether it might consumes CPU or not.

You can do all of that currently with either track *Receiver devices or modulators. Or be more specific, please.

To be precise one sending device might have multiple sub sends (send 1, send 2 ...etc)

Eg. using send device within the track to multiple tracks or specific layers.

Indeed FL Studio has small send device, Live also has but it’s available as M4L device.

This is just an idea no more.

[Dionysos]

My main issue with note effects is that, for me personally, they're performance/recording-only devices. I'm almost never interested in recording their input.

What I'm hoping for is an easy way to set up note effects on a single track so that they're active while playing or recording a MIDI controller, but what's recorded into clips is their output. And of course the note content of clips shouldn't be fed back into the note effects again. It'd probably require a sort of "recording marker" in the device panel that you could drag around to specify at which point you want your notes to be recorded.

[antic604]

My main issue with note effects is that, for me personally, they're performance/recording-only devices. I'm almost never interested in recording their input.

What I'm hoping for is an easy way to set up note effects on a single track so that they're active while playing or recording a MIDI controller, but what's recorded into clips is their output. And of course the note content of clips shouldn't be fed back into the note effects again. It'd probably require a sort of "recording marker" in the device panel that you could drag around to specify at which point you want your notes to be recorded.

In Studio One there's simply an option to render Note FX to the track, which I think would suffice. But there it only works for native devices.

[kukident-youth]

I wish if there’s also a “send to” device
for midi & audio.

This is useful eg. in a song that has dub step beats or break beats which you want the kick & snare to be used as side chain but each has different effects.

Yeah a "multiple" "send to" could maybe solve my first ask... (but with the mixer-view I dont need it anymore, maybe other guys......

But, if i got YOU correct, for yYOUR POINT: You can use several "note-sidechains-MODULATORS" in the SAME destination-device(destination-target!) Example: You want (level) sidechain your BASS by kick AND by another percussion/drum element or dozens of them (and you have its midi-datas on separat tracks) ... Just use ONE TOOL in your BASS.... and use ONE Note-sidechain-"modulator" for each MIDI-track-data seperatly in just this ONE Destination-Tool. Now you can form via "ADSR" the "comperssor-attack-relase-treshold....." for kick and snare as your taste with two (or more) independent ADSR-envelopes, each for each midi-track... on the same GAIN_knob of just one TOOL.

Well, you cannot use a group as NOTE_SIDECHAIN-IN (at least afaik) but will you really "sidechain" eg. kick and snare by the same ADSR (or real compresser-settings)???
For me and just for level-sidechain-stunts just a simple TOOL and 1,2 midi-trigger-tracks are better than each REAL (audio) sidechain-compressor... Well, its not for glueing, colorize, other compersser "magic".... its just for level-stunts the best and most controllable and presice way i know...

It tkae some minutes to prepare a TOOL for this and you cannot just "part-preset" it. The "preset" will lost their IN_routings by reacall... So make a better a template with all routings saved....

[pdxindy]

What I'm hoping for is an easy way to set up note effects on a single track so that they're active while playing or recording a MIDI controller, but what's recorded into clips is their output. And of course the note content of clips shouldn't be fed back into the note effects again. It'd probably require a sort of "recording marker" in the device panel that you could drag around to specify at which point you want your notes to be recorded.

That would be a handy device... but it is easy and fast enough for me to use 2 tracks to record the midi from Note FX that I only consider that a small workflow improvement. Happy to have that device though if it ever shows up.

[Dionysos]

but it is easy and fast enough for me to use 2 tracks to record the midi from Note FX that I only consider that a small workflow improvement.

I wish that was true for me, too. It ties my brain up in knots to the point that it kind of defeats the point of using these (lazy-person's) devices in the first place. May as well learn to play the keyboard properly instead!

[pdxindy]

but it is easy and fast enough for me to use 2 tracks to record the midi from Note FX that I only consider that a small workflow improvement.

I wish that was true for me, too. It ties my brain up in knots to the point that it kind of defeats the point of using these (lazy-person's) devices in the first place. May as well learn to play the keyboard properly instead!

For a lot of playing I'm decent... well, sometimes one hand at a time with overdubbing... heh

But some arp stuff I couldn't come close to playing realtime.

I would like to see midi step recording in Bitwig. With a good implementation that can be pretty fast if you know what you want to play. Not good for happy accidents though

[backtomusic]

... already pointed out above .. ignore

[horizon7]

I wish also a feature that is similar to “multi fx selector device” but is dedicated for modulators & those mods can be switched on & off.

Like for example you can use “Steps”
modulator & create several ones & tweak
steps on each the same modulator to create different patterns jumping from “Steps”
modulator 1 Pattern to “Steps” modulator 2 via automation, midi or CC.

Another example is to switch from
“Classic LFO” to “Beat LFO” & so on, this will create interesting variety of modulation dynamics & shapes on the fly.

I usually do the same thing but with the
grid & it’s time consuming that I should
patch each modules & cords them then use modulator arrow to link each device time.
So I have to create a default presets
for those tasks.

But switching modulators freely is more
intuitive & initiative.

Although the Grid planet is a huge but in some cases we need an initiative work flow straight from the modulators.

The current modulators needs to have
a special field for naming tag as constant.
So we can see each modulator name.

This is useful when many modulators
are existing & needs to be managed
hence knowing there connected
devices without having to click on them
each time to know there names.

[pdxindy]

I wish also a feature that is similar to “multi fx selector device” but is dedicated for modulators & those mods can be switched on & off.

Select the device that has all your modulators... then in the inspector you can Shift-click on the modulator name to mute that modulator. Shift-click on an individual target to mute just that target.

[horizon7]

I wish also a feature that is similar to “multi fx selector device” but is dedicated for modulators & those mods can be switched on & off.

Select the device that has all your modulators... then in the inspector you can Shift-click on the modulator name to mute that modulator. Shift-click on an individual target to mute just that target.

Can it be automated?

[antic604]

You know modulators can modulate other modulators, right?

Like for example you can use “Steps”
modulator & create several ones & tweak
steps on each the same modulator to create different patterns jumping from “Steps”
modulator 1 Pattern to “Steps” modulator 2 via automation, midi or CC.

Have you tried Parseq8 for that?
https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/music/ ... l#parseq-8

Another example is to switch from
“Classic LFO” to “Beat LFO” & so on, this will create interesting variety of modulation dynamics & shapes on the fly.

Mix perhaps?
https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/music/ ... s.html#mix

[pdxindy]

I wish also a feature that is similar to “multi fx selector device” but is dedicated for modulators & those mods can be switched on & off.

Select the device that has all your modulators... then in the inspector you can Shift-click on the modulator name to mute that modulator. Shift-click on an individual target to mute just that target.

Can it be automated?

You cannot automate activating or deactivating modulators. What you can automate is the modulator amount parameter. Set it to 0 and the modulator is in effect disabled.

[horizon7]

I wish also a feature that is similar to “multi fx selector device” but is dedicated for modulators & those mods can be switched on & off.

Select the device that has all your modulators... then in the inspector you can Shift-click on the modulator name to mute that modulator. Shift-click on an individual target to mute just that target.

Can it be automated?

You cannot automate activating or deactivating modulators. What you can automate is the modulator amount parameter. Set it to 0 and the modulator is in effect disabled.

I recommend this for to do +1.