Tal J-8

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KVRist
253 posts since 9 Apr, 2005 from Japan

Post Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:09 am

EvilDragon wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:07 am
WTH, middle C is either C3 (Germany), or C4 (most of the world) or C5 (older Roland but more recently they use C4 IIRC, FL Studio). Never heard middle C being referred to as C6!
I knew I shouldn't have used "middle C". I meant the C physically centered on the keyboard when it's transposed up 3 octaves.
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KVRAF
21243 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:12 am

Ah! Then yeah it's German middle C + 3. :)

(But I think Roland uses C4 for middle C nowadays).

KVRist
270 posts since 27 Nov, 2016

Post Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:50 am

Probably will buy later today great synth - finally clicked with it after moving away from the presets

I've just updated though and has random button in SC section been removed or have I accidentally rolled back a version ?

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KVRian
1212 posts since 25 Sep, 2011 from Colombia

Post Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:04 am

v1.3.4 has the random button in SC section.

KVRist
270 posts since 27 Nov, 2016

Post Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:09 am

That's odd thanks for confirming - I just have either reverted a version or somehow have 2 versions installed - I'll check tonight

Thanks again

KVRist
270 posts since 27 Nov, 2016

Post Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:14 am

Just checked and in Reaper showing no random button and no way to see version number and Cubase 10 showing the correct latest version with the random dial and button so somehow reaper must be pointing to an older version and I have two versions installed

Thanks

KVRAF
8162 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:17 am

Buckster wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:14 am
Just checked and in Reaper showing no random button and no way to see version number and Cubase 10 showing the correct latest version with the random dial and button so somehow reaper must be pointing to an older version and I have two versions installed

Thanks
Add the J-8 to a track in Reaper and open Reaper's Project Bay. It will tell you the exact folder location for any plugins in your project. I had a similar issue with a different plugin recently, and that's how I was able to hunt down the location of the stray plugin.

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KVRAF

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10005 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:29 am

1.3.4 is up already?
(it is, but that doesn't' have the new arp yet)
damn
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KVRist
41 posts since 21 May, 2015

Post Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:12 pm

I would like 1.3.5 to come with a Fatar keyboard and metal enclosure.

Tell Patrick.

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KVRAF
21243 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:25 pm

Bandaide wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:12 pm
I would like 1.3.5 to come with a Fatar keyboard and metal enclosure.

Tell Patrick.
:D

KVRAF
8162 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:21 pm

zvenx wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:29 am
1.3.4 is up already?
(it is, but that doesn't' have the new arp yet)
damn
rsp
I don't see reference to 1.3.4 on the site. Then again, I downloaded 4.4.1 of U-No-LX the other day only to actually get 4.4.2, so I guess maybe if they're very small fixes, maybe there's no changelog/mention on the site?

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KVRAF

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10005 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:23 pm

ahh.. yes I didn't know there was a 1.3.4 till I downloaded.

Just like how I am now finding out there is a 4.4.2 from you :)
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KVRian
1239 posts since 12 Nov, 2002 from Newcastle, UK

Post Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:15 pm

I'm having a weird issue in Reaper where certain presets are making clicking/glitching noises on note-on when I'm playing say all 8 notes of an 8 note polyphonic patch however if I record what I'm playing as a midi sequence and turn off Reaper's record-arm for the track then play it back the issue isn't present!

For example, I add J-8 to an empty project and record-arm the track. Select the "Poly Brasso" patch from the Solidtrax/Lead bank. Play an 8 note chord/stab, then repeat, this causes short clicking/glitching noise on every retrigger. If I only play 4 note chords the issue doesn't occur. If I record the 8 note chord part and disable record-arm in Reaper the issue also goes away.

It's frustrating as I like playing live (for my own amusement), and love large chords.. Can any other Reaper user confirm this?!

Reaper x64 v6.23 in Windows 7 64-bit, J-8 version 1.34 VST2 (the VST3 version also does this)..

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KVRist
180 posts since 2 May, 2007 from Swiss

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:40 am

Arashi wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:05 am
ToguAudioLine wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:12 am
Thanks for the arp hint. We totally missed that. Thought it's the same like the Juno 60 has.
I did a couple experiments today to try to pin down exactly how the arp works. It's pretty intricate when you look into the details. Turns out the UP, DOWN, and UP+DOWN mode also applies to the note order, and this (combined with the fact that all of these modes respond to the order you played the notes) is what makes the JP-8 arp so interesting.

For example, if you play the following notes in this order: C3, G3, D3, E3…

In UP mode, 1 octave, the sequence you played will simply repeat.

In DOWN mode, 1 octave, that sequence will play in reverse order: E3, D3, G3, C3.

In UP+DOWN mode, 1 octave, the sequence plays forward, then backwards (first and last notes are bold): C3, G3, D3, E3, D3, G3 (repeat). It does not repeat the first or last note.

When you switch to 2 or more octaves, it follows the same behavior as above while cycling through octaves in the selected direction. It does not repeat the first or last note in the overall sequence.

If it helps, I can record the MIDI output for each of these scenarios and provide MIDI files so you have a visual (piano roll) reference.
This one took it's time. I will make some more tests and compare it the to hardware. Hope i can update in the next days.
It looks like arpeggiator sorting wasn't an option back then. It's always "as played" with octave UP. DOWN just reverses the notes somehow.
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KVRAF
21243 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:50 am

Yeah. Looks like there's a note input buffer, but no sorting in that buffer, just reading it in reverse in case of DOWN or UP&DOWN.

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