Hive 2.1 public beta 02 revision 10947 (incl. native Silicon M1 support)
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- KVRAF
- 2685 posts since 14 Jul, 2005 from Australia
I believe Serum also had a flag in the wavetable header to know if it was a factory wavetable and those would not be embedded. I think it’s safe to assume factory wavetables are present.
- KVRAF
- 24433 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Sure - the whole thing only matters for any WTs you bring in from outside that are not factory WTs.
- u-he
- 30215 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
- u-he
- 30215 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
- KVRAF
- 26971 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Here are a few sounds I previously posted using the new 2.1 filters...Shiek927 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:45 am Are there any good examples yet of the comb filters in action?![]()
https://dandelionaudio.com/sound/hive21-6.mp3
https://dandelionaudio.com/sound/hive21-10.mp3
https://dandelionaudio.com/sound/hive21-12.mp3
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- KVRian
- 886 posts since 14 May, 2014
Are these the same comb filters that will be in Zebra3? they sound extremely good and as realistic as any sound coming out of Diva
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- KVRist
- 274 posts since 31 May, 2017
I sold Hive 2 because of poor GUI performance on macOS but everything is excellent now (Catalina, Reaper). Feels very snappy to use, opens within the second. And the comb filter is so fun, have not tried the others yet.
What is everyones trick to "mellow out" Hive without drowning it in reverb and effects? I often find that it is just a bit too energetic for most occasions - makes it sound impressive and modern, but i also would like it to sound lazy and laid back some times, especially for pads.
I try with drastic EQing but it is not enough to remove all the energy. Subtle phaser seem to help a bit. I also feel that the Clean mode is the most relaxed? (but i might be wrong)
Such a beautiful sounding synth though
I'm happy to get back into it.
What is everyones trick to "mellow out" Hive without drowning it in reverb and effects? I often find that it is just a bit too energetic for most occasions - makes it sound impressive and modern, but i also would like it to sound lazy and laid back some times, especially for pads.
I try with drastic EQing but it is not enough to remove all the energy. Subtle phaser seem to help a bit. I also feel that the Clean mode is the most relaxed? (but i might be wrong)
Such a beautiful sounding synth though
I'm happy to get back into it.
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- KVRAF
- 12492 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
When I want to "warm up" synths, especially pads, I tend to turn to BBD-based chorus and delay effects. Try something like TAL Chorus or Syntorus 2 in BBD mode combined with something like ColourCopy or ValhallaDelay (though that one, I prefer in Tape+Past mode for synths). Maybe throw in a 70's/80's chorus like the Relab LX480, ValhallaVintageVerb, or Relab's Sonsig.cantaloupe wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:31 pmWhat is everyones trick to "mellow out" Hive without drowning it in reverb and effects? I often find that it is just a bit too energetic for most occasions - makes it sound impressive and modern, but i also would like it to sound lazy and laid back some times, especially for pads.
That BBD Chorus plus BBD or Tape Delay and/or Lexi-style reverb is my go-to chain for warming up synths without EQ or saturation. The chorus and delays are usually dark enough to cut some high end in a pleasant way.
- KVRAF
- 26971 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
If you are using wavetables, that can also have a big effect on how much high energy there is. Some of them are very bright... If drastic eq is somehow not enough, then seems like you are starting with too bright an initial sound.cantaloupe wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:31 pmWhat is everyones trick to "mellow out" Hive without drowning it in reverb and effects? I often find that it is just a bit too energetic for most occasions - makes it sound impressive and modern, but i also would like it to sound lazy and laid back some times, especially for pads.
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- KVRer
- 7 posts since 25 Feb, 2021
Great guys I just reinstalled a new machine from scratch, reinstalling my u-he stuff just now and seeing there's a beta version with Big Sur compatibility that's sweet!
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- KVRer
- 7 posts since 25 Feb, 2021
It's incredible! I never ran a u-he product that fast lol. I could compare both official and beta since I reinstalled official first. Although beta shows 2/3% CPU use more on same preset vs. official, it's 2 times faster with M1! Incredible thank you so much. Will report here if I come across any bug. Hoping for a M1 beta for Diva too some time.
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- KVRAF
- 2296 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
Excellent, I don't really know what I'm doing when it comes to comb filters/physical modelling style synthesis!
Always Read the Manual!
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- KVRian
- 751 posts since 9 Mar, 2001
It's 3 AM here and I have to go to work in 4 hours.. Hive is so fun to work with.
I have made this great sequencer patch for my next track but I'm not 100% happy with it yet since it has a problem with clicks when modulating the Phase of the Phaser/Flanger. I often modulate Phaser/Flanger to create more interest when doing loops (1/8th, 1/16th notes) and I really love do it it inside Hive and not with external FX.
Even though I'm using SL (Slew in Fast or Smooth) when using Random Hold LFO to modulate the Phase (in Flanger-mode), I still get a lot of unwanted clicks. Would it be possible to introduce another type of Slew that never gives you sharp edges (both on start and at the beginning of a "fall")?
In this case the slew works better in Smooth, but Slow is too slow for what I want (or using random glide for that matter). When analysing the scope I can see that when the modulating signal falls, it creates a sharp edge due to the envelope shape of the slew. Would it be possible to have something like a "Log/Lin/Exp" knob (like the one from Make Noise's Maths)?
It's probably a pretty "nisch" type of request I guess. Or are there any other ways I could work around this?
I have made this great sequencer patch for my next track but I'm not 100% happy with it yet since it has a problem with clicks when modulating the Phase of the Phaser/Flanger. I often modulate Phaser/Flanger to create more interest when doing loops (1/8th, 1/16th notes) and I really love do it it inside Hive and not with external FX.
Even though I'm using SL (Slew in Fast or Smooth) when using Random Hold LFO to modulate the Phase (in Flanger-mode), I still get a lot of unwanted clicks. Would it be possible to introduce another type of Slew that never gives you sharp edges (both on start and at the beginning of a "fall")?
In this case the slew works better in Smooth, but Slow is too slow for what I want (or using random glide for that matter). When analysing the scope I can see that when the modulating signal falls, it creates a sharp edge due to the envelope shape of the slew. Would it be possible to have something like a "Log/Lin/Exp" knob (like the one from Make Noise's Maths)?
It's probably a pretty "nisch" type of request I guess. Or are there any other ways I could work around this?
- u-he
- 30215 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
If you have a spare envelope, you can set Attack to 0 and modulate Sustain with whatever and use Decay as a variable Slew Limit. This turns the envelope into a Slew Limiter, as long as Gate is On.
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- KVRAF
- 2911 posts since 3 Mar, 2006
that is a great tip and will help me not run out of function generators constantlyUrs wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:02 am If you have a spare envelope, you can set Attack to 0 and modulate Sustain with whatever and use Decay as a variable Slew Limit. This turns the envelope into a Slew Limiter, as long as Gate is On.
