DSM V3 - Another PA plugin released today

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KVRAF
3814 posts since 8 Mar, 2006

Post Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:58 am

I would like more opinions on DSM3 vs Soothe2 please!
I use DSM very often, it's very good at what it does and always eyeing Soothe but I won't get it cause of the iLok system, sorry.. :P

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KVRAF
3814 posts since 8 Mar, 2006

Post Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:00 am

audiot wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:21 am
What an amazing tool! And currently on sale for 49 € :hyper:
even cheaper with this code: MEGA-SALE-20OFF

KVRian
671 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Germany

Post Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:30 am

3ee wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:58 am
I would like more opinions on DSM3 vs Soothe2 please!
I use DSM very often, it's very good at what it does and always eyeing Soothe but I won't get it cause of the iLok system, sorry.. :P
Soothe is more surgical! It only affects the frequency ranges that you set up and leaves the rest untouched. I'm new to DSM but i feel that it somehow adds some overall tonal balance to the sound :?: (to less experience to give a proper opinion). DSEQ is also worth a look (79 €), but Soothe is more precise.

If you can get Soothe on a sale, or a 2nd hand license, then get it ... the hype for Soothe is justified :) But it adds latency! BTW: I never had iLok problems (i'm using it since 2014, i think)

KVRian
917 posts since 16 Jan, 2018 from Portland, OR USA

Post Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:54 pm

audiot wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:30 am
3ee wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:58 am
I would like more opinions on DSM3 vs Soothe2 please!
I use DSM very often, it's very good at what it does and always eyeing Soothe but I won't get it cause of the iLok system, sorry.. :P
Soothe is more surgical! It only affects the frequency ranges that you set up and leaves the rest untouched. I'm new to DSM but i feel that it somehow adds some overall tonal balance to the sound :?: (to less experience to give a proper opinion). DSEQ is also worth a look (79 €), but Soothe is more precise.

If you can get Soothe on a sale, or a 2nd hand license, then get it ... the hype for Soothe is justified :) But it adds latency! BTW: I never had iLok problems (i'm using it since 2014, i think)
That ☝️
Also, from my point of view comparing DSM with Soothe is like using a Pultec for de-essing. There are some things DSM does well, for sure. Soothe does many other things DSM can't.
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KVRer
1 posts since 26 Nov, 2016 from Austin, TX

Post Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:08 pm

bmanic wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:39 am
I'd like to know this too. DSM V2 was buggy as hell. Sometimes still dropping the captured spectrum and not opening correctly with a session.
NO!!! It kills me that this amazing design is rendered practically unusable. I've played "support tag" with this issue literally for years now (since v2). I assumed it had been fixed with V3 until I began trusting my ears. It has the same bug – only worse! Where v2 would display a reset flat curve, v3 gives no indication – the curve appears to be retained only it isn't. There's no way of knowing unless you hear it, which is preposterous as the DSM is at it's best when used subtly. However, I cannot use something I cannot trust.

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KVRAF
2163 posts since 31 Jan, 2020

Post Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:09 am

doesnt matter
Last edited by Spring Goose on Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:39 am, edited 2 times in total.

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KVRAF
2163 posts since 31 Jan, 2020

Post Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:26 am

-- doesnt matter
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KVRian
562 posts since 1 Sep, 2007

Post Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:35 am

jrtaylormusic wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:08 pm
bmanic wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:39 am
I'd like to know this too. DSM V2 was buggy as hell. Sometimes still dropping the captured spectrum and not opening correctly with a session.
NO!!! It kills me that this amazing design is rendered practically unusable. I've played "support tag" with this issue literally for years now (since v2). I assumed it had been fixed with V3 until I began trusting my ears. It has the same bug – only worse! Where v2 would display a reset flat curve, v3 gives no indication – the curve appears to be retained only it isn't. There's no way of knowing unless you hear it, which is preposterous as the DSM is at it's best when used subtly. However, I cannot use something I cannot trust.
I have only used V3 and not that much, but I have yet to encountered any loss of capture curve except when I had set a 1024 buffer number in "Block size to use when rendering:" (Reaper v6 - Preferences/audio/rendering) while working at 512.

Then it completely dropped the capture when I rendered any audio

...thought it may be worth posting if anybody else is having a similair issue... don't know much how other hosts works, but it appears that DSM are sensitive to block size changes or things related to it...
Last edited by Kr3eM on Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:42 am, edited 2 times in total.

KVRian
562 posts since 1 Sep, 2007

Post Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:39 am

quoted myself instead of editing

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KVRAF
3814 posts since 8 Mar, 2006

Post Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:07 am

about the bug: first of all.. officially report it with the details you have! ..that way it may get fixed!

Then: ... if you close the project (better yet the DAW) and open it back again, the bug is gone until next time ;) ..hopefully you didn't re-adjust the threshold and 'eq' points before realizing the bug has kicked in ;)

This happens relatively rarely but happens for sure... it doesn't seem to drop the curve.. just the threshold 'resets' to a different value under the hood..

As I noticed, the bug tends to happen with multiple projects open and/or under CPU/buffering strain or if you have the projects open for a long time and PC going to sleep and you continue working on them the next time(s) you wake it up..

Hope it'll get fixed, DSM is very useful... it's something between dynamic-eq and more spectral like processors such as soothe

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KVRAF
5274 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany

Post Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:29 pm

Very special and from the idea very good plugin. Unfortunately, I also had bugs that made it impossible to work properly. I often had completely different (higher) levels after rendering. Presumably the threshold curve disappeared during offline rendering. After exporting and setting it again, it worked again... I don't use the DSM V3 anymore because of this.

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