M-AGC, M-Auto Volume & MXXX's Auto Level
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- KVRist
- 472 posts since 21 Feb, 2012
Greetings,
I didn't understand the difference between "M-AGC", "M-Auto Volume" & the small
device in MXXX's the "Auto Level". can some one tell me the difference?
My main question is I want to create a patch that is similar to Ableton Live "Saturation"
device that saturate specific frequency without raising it's gain (Conserving the gain
while hearing the saturated processing only not the band it self). similar to what a vintage EQ's
does that they retains the distortion without raising it's volume).
& I want to combine this patch along with a 3rd party plugin.
However many of Melda plugins have "Automatic gain control" integrated. I want something
similar to it's behavior but as stand alone plugin. the integrated AGC behaves better. it can
compensate the Output with Input even if there is an aggressive amount of distortion.
so for example if I want to solo one band from the Melda multiband & leave the rest turned off
(Turning there processing Not mute) this particular band that being solo will compensate the output with the input exactly with no phase issues when moving this band across the spectrum frequency.
unlike those three plugins (that I mentioned above) they need manual adjustments like the "Range" & "Intensity", "Speed".
The integrated "Automatic gain control" has more balanced algorithms you will never here any phase difference while dragging the solo band across the spectrum.
I didn't understand the difference between "M-AGC", "M-Auto Volume" & the small
device in MXXX's the "Auto Level". can some one tell me the difference?
My main question is I want to create a patch that is similar to Ableton Live "Saturation"
device that saturate specific frequency without raising it's gain (Conserving the gain
while hearing the saturated processing only not the band it self). similar to what a vintage EQ's
does that they retains the distortion without raising it's volume).
& I want to combine this patch along with a 3rd party plugin.
However many of Melda plugins have "Automatic gain control" integrated. I want something
similar to it's behavior but as stand alone plugin. the integrated AGC behaves better. it can
compensate the Output with Input even if there is an aggressive amount of distortion.
so for example if I want to solo one band from the Melda multiband & leave the rest turned off
(Turning there processing Not mute) this particular band that being solo will compensate the output with the input exactly with no phase issues when moving this band across the spectrum frequency.
unlike those three plugins (that I mentioned above) they need manual adjustments like the "Range" & "Intensity", "Speed".
The integrated "Automatic gain control" has more balanced algorithms you will never here any phase difference while dragging the solo band across the spectrum.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
If you want what the Melda plugins has as "AGC" feature, you need to use MAGC and send the original audio to the sidechain. MAutoVolume is kinda like a compressor, just different - it rides the volume of say vocal, trumpet or bass tracks to keep the level near constant. And AutoLevel is something very different 
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 472 posts since 21 Feb, 2012
Thanks a lot Vojtech appreciate your reply,MeldaProduction wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:00 pm If you want what the Melda plugins has as "AGC" feature, you need to use MAGC and send the original audio to the sidechain. MAutoVolume is kinda like a compressor, just different - it rides the volume of say vocal, trumpet or bass tracks to keep the level near constant. And AutoLevel is something very different![]()
Ok I understand about M Auto Level thanks.
However does MAGC device works different than the native M plugins AGC or it's exactly it has
the same functions?
I noticed there isn't any knobs with the native AGC unlike MAGC.
This seems to me that MAGC is more manual than native AGC which is fully automatic.
I feel that native AGC is dedicated within M plugins only & can't be Altered with the same
behavior by adding MAGC after an M plugin is this right?
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
MAGC is exactly the same thing as the internal AGC
(I think
)
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 472 posts since 21 Feb, 2012
Ok thanks Vojtech for your clarificationMeldaProduction wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:10 pm MAGC is exactly the same thing as the internal AGC(I think
)
Best regards,
- KVRist
- 60 posts since 7 Mar, 2018
MAGC is a hidden gem, I used it as an AGC for all my other plugins using Metaplugin by DDMF, saved so much time by using the new set output gain feature that was added recently. I've converted all my non Melda FX plugins into Metaplugin Chains so mixing is a breeze now due to this!


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- KVRist
- 308 posts since 11 Jul, 2016
Just to be clear, the setup you are showing makes it so whatever you do with the Weiss Compressor, the Output level remains the SAME as the Input. Yes?
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- KVRist
- 308 posts since 11 Jul, 2016
