Cubase Pro 10.5.20 is *no longer* the perfect DAW

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KVRAF
3175 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:10 pm

I have to say the new modulation system which can be found in the Uhbik 2.0 public alphas do Cubase a world of good
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brilliant one, big cheers to u-he, it's even more perfect now :D
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

KVRAF
20702 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Post Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:05 pm

How is Cubase different to any other host in regards to these?

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KVRAF
2561 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am

chk071 wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:56 am
boark wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:04 pm
Cubase needs to eliminate the dongle. That alone prevents it from becoming my only DAW.
After they just had a downtime of their activation servers for several days, I could imagine that they'll consider dropping eLicenser in the near future.

Maybe that's just wishful thinking though. ;)
Not a chance, seeing at it's stopped Cubase being cracked since V 5 I believe. On cubase forums on facebook, people pop up all the time, I got a problem with Cubase 5, how do you do this in Cubase 5, etc. I can't see the dongle ever being dropped. I'd love to see the end of it, same for Vengeance plugins, Id love to see them drop it too. But same thing with them, they aren't cracked. (AFAIK) Dongle is a real pain in the arse, but at least it does what its supposed to.
Forward ever, Backward never

KVRAF
28116 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:39 am

Yeah, I guess you're right. There's no real reason for them to drop it.

TBH, I started using eLicenser again as well, as I bought Halion Symphonic Orchestra and Wavelab Elements (again) recently. There's no real alternative for me for those. Still wished I wouldn't have that USB port permanently blocked.
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

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KVRAF
2561 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:42 am

I use the vengeance plugins too, and they are elicenser, really boils my p!ss because they want the old dongle sent to them if it dies before they issue new licenses, even though I have proof of purchase.

I wish the dongle would fk off tbh.
Forward ever, Backward never

KVRAF
3175 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Post Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:45 pm

but why don't u use a (portable) hub? https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-usb-and-usb-c-hubs I didn't see my dongle at least for 5 years
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

KVRian
1302 posts since 7 Dec, 2013 from Earth

Post Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:33 pm

xbitz wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:45 pm
I didn't see my dongle at least for 5 years
Too much information :lol: :lol: :lol:

KVRAF
20702 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Post Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:14 am

xbitz wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:45 pm
but why don't u use a (portable) hub? https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-usb-and-usb-c-hubs I didn't see my dongle at least for 5 years
That's a good solution only when you (ab)use your laptop as a desktop PC - as soon as you start using your laptop as a laptop it just adds to the PITA

KVRer
14 posts since 26 Nov, 2017

Post Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:38 pm

Finally! A dongle-free future is coming. :clap: :party:

https://twitter.com/SteinbergMedia/stat ... 6837344257

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KVRAF
1802 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Seattle, WA - USA

Post Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:45 pm

Hell just froze over. I might not sell Cubase now.

KVRAF
20702 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Post Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:20 pm

What a delight to read that indeed! :party:

I feel this actually might have something to do with this very thread by the way...

What's next? Proper touchscreen support? :razz:

KVRist
242 posts since 26 Jun, 2016

Post Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:37 pm

Steinberg.. dongle-free.. but needing to be online 24/7? or use some cloud instead?... or even go subscription? No thanks...

I never had issues with dongles and it is extremely handy working on other systems and not needing to use passwords that are stuck on someone else's registry etc etc. Having to uninstall afterwards blablabla. Dongles are the best things ever. The only thing I do not like about the ilok one is the fee you have to pay if you decide to sell something you are not using anymore.

But dongle > being online // cloud // subcsciption service. If you work on high sample rates every bit of those cpu cycles matter. I do not get clicks and pops if my connection is off at 96k and up, but I do get them when it is on.

I will not update ever again if it comes to that. Same as I did with ProTools and I gave up using it at all in the end.

Whenever a german company tells you that they are doing something for the user... ALWAYS.. but ALWAYS question that and look for other things behind their choice. It is almost never for the user's benefit, but always something else. I would not even be surprised if the recent outage or whatever was "fake" in order to introduce something supposedly for your interest but not really...

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KVRAF
1802 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Seattle, WA - USA

Post Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:45 pm

Steinberg have made it clear on the forum that while they're overhauling their license management system and will no longer require a physical dongle, their goal is not to introduce some kind of subscription plan or eliminate perpetual licenses.

For me iLok has been a far better experience, especially for laptop use: multiple device activations per license and the flexibility to use a dongle, machine or cloud authorization.

KVRAF
20702 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Post Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:52 pm

Sindikhate wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:37 pm
Whenever a german company tells you that they are doing something for the user... ALWAYS.. but ALWAYS question that and look for other things behind their choice. It is almost never for the user's benefit, but always something else. I would not even be surprised if the recent outage or whatever was "fake" in order to introduce something supposedly for your interest but not really...
German-hatin' much, huh? What did those bloody Krauts do to you over there in Hannover?

KVRAF
6934 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from NZ

Post Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:57 pm

In a nice dreamy world, there is a possibility that Steinberg researched the market and found that it's not a bad idea to have a protection like Ableton or Presonus or Bitwig has, for example. Sometimes, nice things happen in this world :)
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