PLASMONIC - A new synth from Brian Clevinger

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KVRAF
4538 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:30 am

Think I found another bug , or let's say some nasty artifacts
Choose saw oscillator and route it into filter , low pass filter it to around around 3oo hz
Enable the saturation module and pull back the input to -12 db , some nasty artifacts appear .
This happens with all the saturation modes , and I suspect that is because the saturation is actually a wavefom used as a transfer function ...
Hope he solves this

For some reason , the support mail adres is not recognized with gmail ..

Anyone else having no luck modulating the lfo speed by another lfo , the rate parameter doesn't bring up the mod system .

People should not underestimate plasmonic for pure va/subtractive duties , it is verry capable and I am loving the filter ..sounds abs.great
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KVRian
838 posts since 14 Jul, 2018

Post Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:55 am

gentleclockdivider wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:30 am
Think I found another bug , or let's say some nasty artifacts
yes
i can confirm

also, although less noticable, with other waveforms

also, when the osc shape is set to sine,
even without distortion, and only routed via an open LP filter,
there is also quite a lot of foldback aliasing going on
starting at about 12kHz...
...but that's probably another "thing"... ;-)

well...

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KVRAF
4538 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:45 am

Got a reply from brian , he is looking into it but he says there are also sound designers who like the artifacts as an effect .
It doesn’t bother me so much anymore , since everything else is so well executed
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KVRian
838 posts since 14 Jul, 2018

Post Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:01 am

yes
and those artifact sort of vanish when the distortion gain goes up to 0 and above
and those artefacts seem to be quite sympathetic with the base sound
(contraty to aliasing, where the foldback-artifacts move in opposite direction of the base, which makes them quite ugly)

so, i personally don't care that much,
also considering that imho distortion (in the digital world) should be handled with care anyways

but definitely good find and thank you! :-)

KVRist
300 posts since 2 Nov, 2020

Post Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:07 am

Please tell Brian that I really like anti-aliasing... :P

KVRist
324 posts since 29 May, 2001

Post Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:03 pm

inspiring sound design video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwVq7dYDOUk

KVRist
324 posts since 29 May, 2001

Post Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:16 am

one question to cine.

out of which modules do you get your brass sounds?

I just have started getting my hands dirty with programming plasmonic and would very much appreciate to know which modules you turn on to get into that direction.

cheers

KVRist
119 posts since 25 May, 2020

Post Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:37 am

100% Plasmonic. 100% controlled by eurorack modules. :-)
Details in the video and related playlists in the video page.

http://youtu.be/NuUn2_SSXb4

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KVRian
645 posts since 29 Nov, 2002 from Finland

Post Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:15 am

100% off-topic, but I kept thinking what the Plasmonic inteface reminds me of. Then I got it, I was trying to recall this old Kawai K1 editor I made with my friend in the early 90's on the good old Amiga. I get really strong 90's/Amiga vibes from the Plasmonic GUI! Whether that's a good or bad thing, can't really say... :lol:
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KVRAF
8058 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:16 am

Ah, the Amiga. Only computer I have ever loved :-)
PC, Studio One, BWS, Live (+PUSH2), FL Studio, Renoise, Reason, X32 Desk, Hardware Synths (Summit, Hydrasynth, DM12, P8), A4 + RYTM, MPC Live, Poly Tracker, Eurorack, TD27 V Drums, Guitars, Basses, Amps and Pedals

KVRist
300 posts since 2 Nov, 2020

Post Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:53 pm

It's a good thing!

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KVRAF
6193 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:09 am

SLiC wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:16 am
Ah, the Amiga. Only computer I have ever loved :-)
Are you still married?

KVRist
119 posts since 25 May, 2020

Post Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:29 am

Some Plasmonic pads animated with Motor:

https://youtu.be/mpNO30TWDtI

KVRist
119 posts since 25 May, 2020

Post Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:31 am

And then some ambient with all sounds generated by Plasmonic except the pad:

https://youtu.be/3VJ4uc8LNLA

KVRer
19 posts since 4 Oct, 2010

Post Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:00 am

gentleclockdivider wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:30 am
Think I found another bug , or let's say some nasty artifacts
Choose saw oscillator and route it into filter , low pass filter it to around around 3oo hz
Enable the saturation module and pull back the input to -12 db , some nasty artifacts appear .
This happens with all the saturation modes , and I suspect that is because the saturation is actually a wavefom used as a transfer function ...
Hope he solves this

For some reason , the support mail adres is not recognized with gmail ..

Anyone else having no luck modulating the lfo speed by another lfo , the rate parameter doesn't bring up the mod system .

People should not underestimate plasmonic for pure va/subtractive duties , it is verry capable and I am loving the filter ..sounds abs.great
I've already reported those bugs (page 63), but there were no replies:

- Anyone noticed upper-frequency distortion introduced by multimode filter? Try passing a pure sine through it and playing some higher notes. If you can't hear it use FFT analyzer to see when and where it happens, but I think it is easily audible.

- Saturation introduces harsh "digital" distortion at lower gains. All three modes do that, in different amounts. If you push gain higher that distortion lowers and normal harmonic saturation gradually takes over.

Personally, I don't like digital distortion and would gladly avoid it, especially in an instrument that sounds semi-realistic as this one.

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