Studio One 5 Available Now (5.3 Out June 29th, 2021)

[SLiC]

A DAW never made a hit track, if you have talent you can make a hit track on anything, if you didn't, all the tools in the world (pro or otherwise) won't help. In my opinion most of the best albums ever made where recorded to tape!

[EnGee]

About famous artists using S1 or not, I really don't care about that and I laugh when I read such childish concern But I also laugh because I remember when I started, I wanted to know what my favourite musicians or bands using, like this is the secret in success that nobody knows

I agree. I did not write it as a concern. I do not care either. I have started using Studio One since Version One when almost nobody knew about it at all and I used it up until now, but currently there is a big wave of ' I have no idea what I am doing' type of online crowd who just wants to be a 'producer' that goes after what their favorite producer use and these types drive the popularity and commerce. When you search how to make a certain genre on youtube you are faced with hundreds of either Live or FL tutorial. Why do you think Logic and DP added Clip launchers, Studio One Pattern editor, Atom SQ etc. All because of a hope to catch that Live, FL loving starter crowd.

Yes you are right. Although, I don't see the clip launcher as a bad thing. I actually use it as ideas organiser or multi scratch pad. In S1, I begin to use the scratch pad which is great.

Anyway, it seems we are heading to the opposite way of the 60's, 70's and 80's era when every one wanted to be different and unique! Now, unfortunately, originality is not a popular thing. In spite of only original works live and be remembered while all the imitations go to trash after some time!

[xbitz]

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[soulata]

A DAW never made a hit track, if you have talent you can make a hit track on anything, if you didn't, all the tools in the world (pro or otherwise) won't help. In my opinion most of the best albums ever made where recorded to tape!

I'm pretty sure you're wrong here!

The rumour going around is that the real reason the Beatles broke up was the lack of (meaningful) updates for their chosen (very secret) DAW. This may or may not be completely true, however, some bugs halting their continued progress were confirmed but the files are currently sealed and stored in Abbey Road Studios' secret vault (close to the echo chambers sources confirm).

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[WatchTheGuitar]

A DAW never made a hit track

Douglas Arthur Wimbish would disagree

Rumours that I spent half an hour going through a list of celebs with the initials DW to find one with the right middle initial are unsubstantiated at this time

[tonedef71]

Rumours that I spent half an hour going through a list of celebs with the initials DW to find one with the right middle initial are unsubstantiated at this time

[Digivolt]

Thanks to this I learned we can now do splitterception with splitters within splitters for some crazy sound design or for some multiband compression using your favourite compressor that might be incapable of multiband normally it also means that every plugin can now be multiband too

[apoclypse]

Thanks to this I learned we can now do splitterception with splitters within splitters for some crazy sound design or for some multiband compression using your favourite compressor that might be incapable of multiband normally it also means that every plugin can now be multiband too

S1 has been able to do that since whenever they added the whole splitter view (v3 I think?). It just that nobody used it because it was so hidden in S1 before. Making it its own plugin that you can add in Console really helps people find it.

It's kind of funny how a fairly simple UI update can change everything about an app sometimes. I always found it odd that S1 had this amazing tool just hidden somewhere where few people would even find it. Now they need to do the same for the Channel Editor. I think it would be way more useful if the knobs and buttons in that view showed up in the Console, or like in Logic in it's own docked view. A lot of people don't even know what the Channel Editor button even does or how to map parameters there. It doesn't help that S1 instruments don't use it for any of their internal instruments or effects. It's just there.

They really need to do some work to bring it up to the forefront and they need to make it easier to work with parameters. For example unlike Ableton or Bitwig you can't map buttons to a knob. Only on/off parameters. You also can't assign min/max values by typing in values, you can only use the graph for that, it's really clunky. It also really limits the potential. So imo they need to finish what they started with the channel editor and incorporate it holistically into the program and fix some design issues.

[antic604]

They really need to do some work to bring it up to the forefront and they need to make it easier to work with parameters. For example unlike Ableton or Bitwig you can't map buttons to a knob. Only on/off parameters. You also can't assign min/max values by typing in values, you can only use the graph for that, it's really clunky. It also really limits the potential. So imo they need to finish what they started with the channel editor and incorporate it holistically into the program and fix some design issues.

...and add modulators

BTW, I found the 5.2 shtick "we've added Splitter as a device" a gimmick, because you can't see it any better in Console when you create a more complex chain with several levels of splitting. I actually preferred it to be hidden from there. If someone buys a DAW and doesn't even bother to read the manual or at least try what different features do, it's not my problem... Also, I still "hate" the way mid/side split works in S1.

[apoclypse]

They really need to do some work to bring it up to the forefront and they need to make it easier to work with parameters. For example unlike Ableton or Bitwig you can't map buttons to a knob. Only on/off parameters. You also can't assign min/max values by typing in values, you can only use the graph for that, it's really clunky. It also really limits the potential. So imo they need to finish what they started with the channel editor and incorporate it holistically into the program and fix some design issues.

...and add modulators

BTW, I found the 5.2 shtick "we've added Splitter as a device" a gimmick, because you can't see it any better in Console when you create a more complex chain with several levels of splitting. I actually preferred it to be hidden from there. If someone buys a DAW and doesn't even bother to read the manual or at least try what different features do, it's not my problem... Also, I still "hate" the way mid/side split works in S1.

I said as much when I first saw the feature. I wouldn't go as far as calling it a gimmick, it just makes the feature a little easier to see/deal with.

I would normally agree with you on the manual thing but at the same time after a long time of feature creep its hard to keep up with all the features. Especially for long time users. I can't tell you half the features in Logic and I've been a Logic users since 5.5 Platinum. Sometimes a feature just isn't obviously useful or implemented in a clunky way that most people won't even bother and forget about it.

[BONES]

Or, as is overwhelmingly the case, new features just aren't very useful. Seriously, I looked at the splitter stuff and thought I'd rather have my spleen removed via my left nostril than have to f**k about with shit like that. Long before things got to that point, I'd have taken the audio out to Audition or SoundForge and fixed it up. And if it wasn't an audio track, I'd fix it at the instrument level. It's very easy to go chasing your tail, adding more and more complexity to try and fix little issues but often it's better to go back to the start and avoid those issues ever cropping up. I do it at work every day - After Effects has plenty of tools for refining mattes (cleaning up the edges of things you have cut out of a photo) but 99.9% of the time, it's much easier and more effective to go back to Photoshop and fix it at source.

[antic604]

Or, as is overwhelmingly the case, new features just aren't very useful. Seriously, I looked at the splitter stuff and thought I'd rather have my spleen removed via my left nostril than have to f**k about with shit like that...

Assuming this is about the Splitter, it's mostly useful for cretive purposes rather than fixing issues:
1) Adding parallel processing to plugins that don't have it, without needing to create additional tracks
2) Applying different processing to left/right, mid/side, lows/highs

Especially the 2nd is a lot of fun and can transform simple sound into moving, breathing and colorful texture. For example, if you want to mono the low end, split the top end into right & left and add delay and reverb to them separately then put some stutter effect on sides channel and saturator on mid channel? With splitters that's very easily done on a single track.

Of course you could do it in a "traditional" way, e.g. by duplicating tracks and separating on each of them the part you want affected.

And you can not want to do that at all, which I guess is the point you're making

[soulata]

And you can not want to do that at all, which I guess is the point you're making

This.

[antic604]

And you can not want to do that at all, which I guess is the point you're making

This.

And that's fair & good, but also highly subjective.

If you're making orchestral pieces, recording a rock band or string quartet, those things might be unnecessary or even "wrong", although I'd argue that some of the most prominent rock records in history are also memorable because of novel recording techniques and effects (say Pink Floyd's records).

But for most of electronic music the sound effects & sound "trickery" are often as important or even more important than melody and/or harmony. The weirder something sounds, the better. And music doesn't have to only be created by chords & pitches, but also with pacing, patterns, rhythms, textures, timbres, movement and interplay of frequency makeup of the sounds, etc.

If a DAW offers tool to do that, I'll take it.

And I'm surprised someone would say that such a tool is stupid or superfluous, but then I'm not going around forums ridiculing people that use notation editors because I don't see a need for them for my own music... So what do I know

[soulata]

Use what you need. It's not a problem.

It is a problem, however, if Presonus keeps giving us the sweets but forgets about meat and potatoes.

Midi timing is awful after v3.3 + plethora of other bugs.