Why does Vojtech ignore suggestions, and say no....
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- KVRist
- 456 posts since 16 Feb, 2017
....Only to implement them later?
I feel like this is a running dialogue but....Whenever any one of us makes a suggestion to better Melda production, it's shot down due to dev time. Do I need to start a freaking GoFundMe or something??? Do we need a master thread of suggestions?
you might as well ban me for being annoying because this is getting out of hand, the potential and talent that Vojtech posseses... Yet his vision is so short-sighted. He could literally flip the Western European and American production companies on their heads and turn them into nothing but molten rubble with a few simple investments of time and a few simple taking of suggestions.
I would like to think that the fans at large have a little more to do with how well this company has succeeded.
I've seen over 500 suggestions be shut down in 8 months. That's a little excessive
I feel like this is a running dialogue but....Whenever any one of us makes a suggestion to better Melda production, it's shot down due to dev time. Do I need to start a freaking GoFundMe or something??? Do we need a master thread of suggestions?
you might as well ban me for being annoying because this is getting out of hand, the potential and talent that Vojtech posseses... Yet his vision is so short-sighted. He could literally flip the Western European and American production companies on their heads and turn them into nothing but molten rubble with a few simple investments of time and a few simple taking of suggestions.
I would like to think that the fans at large have a little more to do with how well this company has succeeded.
I've seen over 500 suggestions be shut down in 8 months. That's a little excessive
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- KVRAF
- 1924 posts since 15 Oct, 2008 from Germany
I'm a full time software developer myself, so bear with me if I side with Vojtech here. It's way better to shut down suggestions and still implement them later than raising expectations that take ages to be implemented or are not implemented at all.
I'd say, be happy that Vojtech is listening at all. He's doing a tremendous job. Just accept that your ideas do not necessarily align with Vojtech's, be it because of a lack of developer's time or the simple fact that your ideas are non-goals of the software. Also, situations change, making stuff possible that were unfeasible earlier.
I'd say, be happy that Vojtech is listening at all. He's doing a tremendous job. Just accept that your ideas do not necessarily align with Vojtech's, be it because of a lack of developer's time or the simple fact that your ideas are non-goals of the software. Also, situations change, making stuff possible that were unfeasible earlier.
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- KVRian
- 1297 posts since 23 Sep, 2008 from Germany
I’d like to say thank you Vojtech at this point.
I think it’s more or less a one man show. Also I have wishes and ideas like many others here. For sure I’m not always happy with his decisions, but it is his company.
There are not many developers who do and hear so much on their users.
Thanks
I think it’s more or less a one man show. Also I have wishes and ideas like many others here. For sure I’m not always happy with his decisions, but it is his company.
There are not many developers who do and hear so much on their users.
Thanks
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- KVRAF
- 35689 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
If you think that software is there to implement every user's wish, then you have no idea about software development. Or no imagination in regards of how the software would look like, if that was happening.Underoath77 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:56 am ....Only to implement them later?
I feel like this is a running dialogue but....Whenever any one of us makes a suggestion to better Melda production, it's shot down due to dev time. Do I need to start a freaking GoFundMe or something??? Do we need a master thread of suggestions?
I also don't know why you behave like that here. If you don't like how the development of the software is working, just stop buying and using it. Instead of suggesting stupid stuff like crowdfunding, and imperious demands to have things run your way.
- KVRist
- 377 posts since 19 Jul, 2013 from Chile
Underoath77, reading some of your posts here I had come to appreciate the energy and enthusiasm you often express, at a forum where one meets all kinds of vibes.
That said, your assertion:
You might have a different vision, but based on that, it is very risky to assume yours is better, wider, wiser that the one you are confronting.
Plus you assume to know what could be done, or what could be advisable to do in terms of development strategy and respect between brands in the field:
Would you develop the same product that small Indian startup recently made to easily re-tune live-playing in Indian scales? You could technically, but you probably won't, there are many considerations floating around. You seem not to be aware of those many factors and interests and appear as just focused in yours.
///I'd suggest you take notice of the complex environment that inspires and promotes the growth and gathering of such diverse talent that allows such incredible tools as it is. Melda is an excellent example of this.
Also, take notice of your communications, what logic it assumes and what feelings convey. ...Otherwise you might wake up in situations feeling like an elephant inside a crystal room, and if you are lucky the biggest problem will not be the damage you may need to pay, or be culprit of, but the damage you may realize you had inflicted... (talking from personal experience here).
That said, your assertion:
may be received as arrogant and plainly rude, or as quite naive.
You might have a different vision, but based on that, it is very risky to assume yours is better, wider, wiser that the one you are confronting.
Plus you assume to know what could be done, or what could be advisable to do in terms of development strategy and respect between brands in the field:
By your expressed suggestion you seem not to be aware we are part of an users and developers community, of an evolving kind. Where boundaries and relations between companies and developers have been shifting all along, take the NI and iZotope's recent alliance. There are more, like Plugin-Alliance, and there is competition too, but your wording shows a very simplistic, war-like win or lose competitive aim you may not realize it might not be shared where you are.Underoath77 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:56 am He could literally flip the Western European and American production companies on their heads and turn them into nothing but molten rubble
Would you develop the same product that small Indian startup recently made to easily re-tune live-playing in Indian scales? You could technically, but you probably won't, there are many considerations floating around. You seem not to be aware of those many factors and interests and appear as just focused in yours.
///I'd suggest you take notice of the complex environment that inspires and promotes the growth and gathering of such diverse talent that allows such incredible tools as it is. Melda is an excellent example of this.
Also, take notice of your communications, what logic it assumes and what feelings convey. ...Otherwise you might wake up in situations feeling like an elephant inside a crystal room, and if you are lucky the biggest problem will not be the damage you may need to pay, or be culprit of, but the damage you may realize you had inflicted... (talking from personal experience here).
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- KVRist
- 113 posts since 14 Oct, 2017
Okay no offense, but your posts have become more cringe over time 

I think there's another reason, which is: if said yes, you could start discussing how it should be implemented, how the workflow should be, how long it will take and all that. Something melda doesn't like. Once it got implmeented, it's fix. You have very low chance to change it, only refine at max
The dev time is of course an "excuse" that can be pulled very quick (not saying it wouldn't be true sometimes, not saying some things can't be hard). But let's be real, a dev who could shit out a plugin every day, has a framework that doesn't need much time to implement or fix certain things.
I'd rather see more honesty like u-he does: saying when and why they just don't like features, telling what steps would needed to be taken to make it possible, saying we'll put it on a todo list, ... And to be fair melda does this sometimes too, putting it on a list with low priority. With the next update it's very likely already in there which means, unfortunately one can't give much about these answers either.
I think one problem is, since it's often your "analog & guitar" suggestions that being shut down (we know how melda thinks about analog), and as seen recently the tools cannot accomplish what specificially been trying, your more negative towards this than others.
Critics are important so I don't think you'll be banned for that
My suggestions would be to just chill a bit. Opening 1000 topics for the same stuff doesn't get it in more quick. Appreciate what you already can do, use other tools for the stuff you can't do.
Take all this with a grain of salt.
There is the car-repair principle: you hear a little squeek and drive it to your repair shop. They throw their hands up in horror, shaking their heads, telling you your car is practically dead (knowing it really just needs some oil on a damper). They ask you to come back an hour later and then to your surprise, your car is working again like a miracle. They'll tell you how hard the very complex task was and they were only able to solve it due to some black magic, which of course only they master. You know the rest... ...same here. Seen this oft with feature requests or bug reports and this all is "too complex for technical reasons" stuffUnderoath77 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:56 am ....Only to implement them later?
I feel like this is a running dialogue but....Whenever any one of us makes a suggestion to better Melda production, it's shot down due to dev time. Do I need to start a freaking GoFundMe or something??? Do we need a master thread of suggestions?
I think there's another reason, which is: if said yes, you could start discussing how it should be implemented, how the workflow should be, how long it will take and all that. Something melda doesn't like. Once it got implmeented, it's fix. You have very low chance to change it, only refine at max
The dev time is of course an "excuse" that can be pulled very quick (not saying it wouldn't be true sometimes, not saying some things can't be hard). But let's be real, a dev who could shit out a plugin every day, has a framework that doesn't need much time to implement or fix certain things.
I'd rather see more honesty like u-he does: saying when and why they just don't like features, telling what steps would needed to be taken to make it possible, saying we'll put it on a todo list, ... And to be fair melda does this sometimes too, putting it on a list with low priority. With the next update it's very likely already in there which means, unfortunately one can't give much about these answers either.
This is ridiculous and you know that. It's that kind of fanboyism that made him further more think he's god-like and it reflects the impression others have of the melda community. And there are enough topics aabout all this marketing buzzword crap, too, which you have been falling for obviously.Underoath77 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:56 am "He could literally flip the Western European and American production companies on their heads and turn them into nothing"
I think one problem is, since it's often your "analog & guitar" suggestions that being shut down (we know how melda thinks about analog), and as seen recently the tools cannot accomplish what specificially been trying, your more negative towards this than others.
Critics are important so I don't think you'll be banned for that
Take all this with a grain of salt.
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- KVRian
- 1284 posts since 3 Jan, 2020
Could you please list them? I watch this forum pretty closely, and I haven't seen anything near that amount.Underoath77 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:56 am I've seen over 500 suggestions be shut down in 8 months. That's a little excessive
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- KVRist
- 460 posts since 25 Jan, 2016
I have to completely disagree with the OP perspective.
As a customer, I have the ability to make suggestions or requests, but Zero expectations that they should be met. Vojtek has his vision of what he wants to do with his company and products and most of us are pretty certain that he'll do it his way - and we will benefit from it.
I'm not a very accomplished contributor to the knowledge base here, but I do make an effort to contribute when I can or when I am trying to learn about something. I don't feel that it is very advantageous to the forum to make demands and requests without offering contributions as well.
As a customer, I have the ability to make suggestions or requests, but Zero expectations that they should be met. Vojtek has his vision of what he wants to do with his company and products and most of us are pretty certain that he'll do it his way - and we will benefit from it.
I'm not a very accomplished contributor to the knowledge base here, but I do make an effort to contribute when I can or when I am trying to learn about something. I don't feel that it is very advantageous to the forum to make demands and requests without offering contributions as well.
