Any love for Dmitry Sches Thorn?
- KVRist
- 405 posts since 1 Jan, 2021
I owned DS Thorn (not PA), but sold it. Still using ThornCM. It's great synth!
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- GRRRRRRR!
- 15971 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
It's not that bad on CPU for what it is. Sure, it uses more than DUNE but what big synth doesn't? I don't find it any worse than something like Hive. ANA 2 is a bit kinder on your CPU but not enough that it would affect which I used.
Thorn is my go-to "big" synth. It's got a great sound and the workflow is much better than any comparable instrument. The way it is set up makes it really quick to do simple things and you only have to add complexity as you need it. The presets for things like Glitch sequences, MSEGs, effects and the Harmonic Filter make it really easy to make very complex timbres, quickly. I honestly don't think there is a better designed synth out there.
Thorn is my go-to "big" synth. It's got a great sound and the workflow is much better than any comparable instrument. The way it is set up makes it really quick to do simple things and you only have to add complexity as you need it. The presets for things like Glitch sequences, MSEGs, effects and the Harmonic Filter make it really easy to make very complex timbres, quickly. I honestly don't think there is a better designed synth out there.
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- KVRist
- 483 posts since 17 Sep, 2020
Good synth and ez to get results quick.
I prefer Diversion that synth has a lot of tricks up its sleeve. Heavy on cpu, mind.
I prefer Diversion that synth has a lot of tricks up its sleeve. Heavy on cpu, mind.
- KVRAF
- 2759 posts since 5 Jun, 2011 from Preston, England, UK
I absolutely love it! Sounds fantastic. Use it in every project. You would have to prise it out of my cold, dead hands.
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- Banned
- 4491 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK
It gets a fair bit of use here, I really like the GUI too.
Haven't spent a great deal of time learning it from the ground up, a lot of the time it's pretty much the presets that have impressed me. Good synth
Haven't spent a great deal of time learning it from the ground up, a lot of the time it's pretty much the presets that have impressed me. Good synth
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- KVRist
- 133 posts since 3 Sep, 2005 from Venezuela
When a synthesizer makes me think about it for many of my projects, it becomes worthy of my respect and won a special place in my arsenal. That happens to me with Thorn and Diversion. Thorn is an amazing blend of wild tonal possibilities with unique features to keep that mega flow torrent under control.
The interaction between Shape/Harmonic Filter, smart modulation routing via LFO and MSEG to oscillators and the fantastic and kinetical Loop, Glitch, Arpeggio, Effects and MOD Matrix, is a superb prism of creative resources to me. Its handling of the wavetables, filters and noise Oscillator complete the picture with useful and configurable effects.
Thorn let me create sounds from lead tones, crisp punchy basses, pluck and pads, keys, and even out of the world textures as very few of my others fav synth. It's as if it had a natural ability to adapt to almost any situation, if you know how to handle it well, of course.
And I could extend even more on this impressive synth, and also talk about Diversion, but I'm going to leave some party time for later.
Thanks Dmitry! As I said to you, you are a synth world genius.
The interaction between Shape/Harmonic Filter, smart modulation routing via LFO and MSEG to oscillators and the fantastic and kinetical Loop, Glitch, Arpeggio, Effects and MOD Matrix, is a superb prism of creative resources to me. Its handling of the wavetables, filters and noise Oscillator complete the picture with useful and configurable effects.
Thorn let me create sounds from lead tones, crisp punchy basses, pluck and pads, keys, and even out of the world textures as very few of my others fav synth. It's as if it had a natural ability to adapt to almost any situation, if you know how to handle it well, of course.
And I could extend even more on this impressive synth, and also talk about Diversion, but I'm going to leave some party time for later.
Thanks Dmitry! As I said to you, you are a synth world genius.
- KVRian
- 1384 posts since 12 Oct, 2012
It is a great modern sounding synth, workflow is also easy and the GUI is slick and beautiful, but i tend to shy away from plugins that eats too much of my cpu power. Dmitry's plugins are amazing but i wish they were more optimised.
There is no valid reason for Thorn to eat 15%-20% for a 16 unison supersaw, while Synthmaster takes 4%-5% for a supersaw with double the number of unison (just an example).
A small tip, the Noise oscillator can load wav samples, I didn't noticed that until i read it somewhere online.
There is no valid reason for Thorn to eat 15%-20% for a 16 unison supersaw, while Synthmaster takes 4%-5% for a supersaw with double the number of unison (just an example).
A small tip, the Noise oscillator can load wav samples, I didn't noticed that until i read it somewhere online.
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
^^^there is a very good reason for it. stop trying to ruin it. it's the only modern software instrument that works correctly at the moment (even if there is stepping in the oscillator frequencies).
- KVRian
- 1384 posts since 12 Oct, 2012
Sorry I don't quite understand what you're trying to say.
Good reason for what?
What exactly am i ruining?
And how is that the only modern synth that works correctly at the moment? That's quite a statement, man.
I don't think that a synth needs to be a CPU hog to sound good, that's why i compared Thorn to the equally good sounding Synthmaster.
This is all my opinion, some people couldn't care less about cpu usage, but i do.
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- KVRAF
- 11205 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
I cant help but feel if this synth hadn't gone to PA it would have had a lot more development.
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- KVRAF
- 35450 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I doubt it. Diversion's last updates has been beginning of 2016, for example. And, AFAIK, it didn't have any groundbreaking changes either.
Arguable.
Welll... maybe a developer can chime in, and explain it, but, the way I alwasy understood it is, that calculating the waveforms like Thorn does (should be the same as in wavetable synths) is more CPU heavy, and, especially, more CPU heavy than using sampled oscillators.
I'm actually a bit surprised though. Does Synthmaster really do that? I thought that at least the basic waveforms are calculated, not sampled.
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012