KVR Audio

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:59 pm

Is there info about Surge XT outside of the issue log? Will it be payware? I think ED overseeing the UI will lead to great results. Expectations are high and I like what I've just read. For me, the biggest challenges with Surge are workflow and usability, with some issues that ED already provided good examples of. Looking forward to XT. Good luck team!

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:04 pm

Surge Synth Team will never ask anyone for money.

The milestone is pretty much our general plan for XT and beyond. Surge XT can actually already be built, but it's far from ready, it's basically early alpha. Lots of things to deal with until summer ends.

Funkybot, would not be a bad thing to see you on our Discord, as I know you also like to fiddle with skins and so on. We do have #design channel for stuff related to UI and skins.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:21 pm

I mostly just tinker with colors. I'm no designer. But if I ever figure out what a Discord is, maybe I'll pop by!

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:24 pm

It's basically this little community we have here (link to join)

Held · Post by **Held** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:46 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:21 pm I mostly just tinker with colors. I'm no designer. But if I ever figure out what a Discord is, maybe I'll pop by!

Here's the link to join

https://discord.gg/aFQDdMV

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:31 pm

No biggie, but keep getting "invite invalid" messages.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:58 pm

Ah you need to open a Discord account first IIRC. https://discord.com/register

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:09 pm

Any chance of a classic duophonic mode for Surge, like on the Odyssey? (I'll be embarrassed if there already is one but I don't think so)

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:10 pm

You can already sort of emulate it with two scenes - set both to monophonic mode, right-click the Play Mode selector and pick lowest note priority for one and highest note priority for the other.

You could also do it in a single scene by disabling keytrack on osc 1/2 and using Lowest Key/Highest Key modulators on pitch. That'd probably be more correct (since then you have those oscillators going into one filter). Unfortunately, portamento does not work in this case (it does work if you use the polyphonic Keytrack modulator, though - something to check out, but too late to fix for 1.9).

MitchK1989 · Post by **MitchK1989** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:23 pm

The lowest key/highest key modulators are definitely the most accurate way to do it (alas with no portamento) if you want FM/RM/Sync between the duophonic oscillators (my favourite oddy trick)

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:42 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:58 pm Ah you need to open a Discord account first IIRC. https://discord.com/register

Disregard. Got it. Thanks!

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:49 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:10 pm You can already sort of emulate it with two scenes - set both to monophonic mode, right-click the Play Mode selector and pick lowest note priority for one and highest note priority for the other.

You could also do it in a single scene by disabling keytrack on osc 1/2 and using Lowest Key/Highest Key modulators on pitch. That'd probably be more correct (since then you have those oscillators going into one filter). Unfortunately, portamento does not work in this case (it does work if you use the polyphonic Keytrack modulator, though - something to check out, but too late to fix for 1.9).

Interesting. And I guess that would work with mpe too? Always looking for a duophonic rimg mod/fm synth with mpe.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:51 pm

MitchK1989 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:23 pm The lowest key/highest key modulators are definitely the most accurate way to do it (alas with no portamento) if you want FM/RM/Sync between the duophonic oscillators (my favourite oddy trick)

Yeah, except Surge doesn't do inter-osc sync.

Echoes in the Attic wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:49 pmInteresting. And I guess that would work with mpe too? Always looking for a duophonic rimg mod/fm synth with mpe.

AFAIK yes it should also work with MPE too.

MitchK1989 · Post by **MitchK1989** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:55 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:51 pm
MitchK1989 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:23 pm The lowest key/highest key modulators are definitely the most accurate way to do it (alas with no portamento) if you want FM/RM/Sync between the duophonic oscillators (my favourite oddy trick)
Yeah, except Surge doesn't do inter-osc sync.

D'oh, you're right - for that effect I used low note priority mono mode and then highest keytrack for the sync parameter.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:55 pm

OK that is actually a pretty kickass workaround!

Vember Audio Surge is now open-source