Finally the very good news from Steinberg!!!

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KVRAF
1583 posts since 28 Mar, 2007

Post Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:56 am

felis wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:44 am
dellboy wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:18 am
....The new system that they are going to implement will have two activations.
Link to your source?
"We also anticipate that it will be possible to authorise the software on more than one computer, but, again, the details remain to be worked out."

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/announce ... /701409/47

KVRAF
28498 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:58 am

I also think they should allow at least 2 activations. That's the "sweet spot" for me.
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KVRian
741 posts since 25 Jul, 2009

Post Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:46 pm

De-activate/Re-activate from any computer would be good. Say you're working with one computer that goes belly-up.

You go to your new computer and de-activate the old one, and then activate the new one.

Not as simple as just moving your dongle, but it could work.

KVRian
864 posts since 27 Oct, 2004 from Inside the kick drum

Post Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:20 pm

So, Steinberg site has been maintenance whole day. Maybe something is happening now? :P

KVRAF
28498 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:24 pm

Oooh...

Well, maybe new Wavelab launch. :) Or they couldn't handle all the download requests for that new Ping Pong plugin. :hihi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVhnH__W5co
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KVRAF
28498 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Thu Apr 01, 2021 12:25 pm

Site works for me, BTW.
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KVRAF
6791 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC

Post Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:05 am

Any new rumors on the timing of changes? I'm considering buying in their current sale, but of course, you still need a dongle for right now, which just seems strange considering the "announcement" they've already made.

I did read that it looks like it'll be a c/r like adobe or Microsoft, but I'm curious about when.

KVRist
263 posts since 12 Oct, 2003

Post Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:10 am

elxsound wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:05 am
Any new rumors on the timing of changes? I'm considering buying in their current sale, but of course, you still need a dongle for right now, which just seems strange considering the "announcement" they've already made.

I did read that it looks like it'll be a c/r like adobe or Microsoft, but I'm curious about when.
I am guessing next year with Cubase 12 .

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KVRAF
7352 posts since 1 Aug, 2003

Post Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:22 am

ozinga wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:10 am
elxsound wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:05 am
Any new rumors on the timing of changes? I'm considering buying in their current sale, but of course, you still need a dongle for right now, which just seems strange considering the "announcement" they've already made.

I did read that it looks like it'll be a c/r like adobe or Microsoft, but I'm curious about when.
I am guessing next year with Cubase 12 .
I hope it won't require upgrading, I've recently switched to Bitwig (after waiting 26 years for Steinberg to finally exploit the possibilities of a digital music production system, instead of simply emulating yesterday's hardware paradigm).

It would be such a relief to finally be rid of that dongle (and the stress it has caused me over the years).

KVRAF
28498 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:29 am

cptgone wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:22 am
ozinga wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:10 am
elxsound wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:05 am
Any new rumors on the timing of changes? I'm considering buying in their current sale, but of course, you still need a dongle for right now, which just seems strange considering the "announcement" they've already made.

I did read that it looks like it'll be a c/r like adobe or Microsoft, but I'm curious about when.
I am guessing next year with Cubase 12 .
I hope it won't require upgrading
I doubt it will, if it will happen before the next major version. After all, they said that ALL the supported (i.e. the ones they are still selling) products will benefit from the new authorization system. That includes the products I have from them (hopefully).

Not sure with Cubase though. If it really happens next year, and Cubase 12 has been released by then, I would think that it requires you to update, if you're still on version 11. Because, they won't sell Cubase 11 anymore then.
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KVRist
263 posts since 12 Oct, 2003

Post Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:27 am

chk071 wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:29 am
cptgone wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:22 am
ozinga wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:10 am
elxsound wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:05 am
Any new rumors on the timing of changes? I'm considering buying in their current sale, but of course, you still need a dongle for right now, which just seems strange considering the "announcement" they've already made.

I did read that it looks like it'll be a c/r like adobe or Microsoft, but I'm curious about when.
I am guessing next year with Cubase 12 .
I hope it won't require upgrading
I doubt it will, if it will happen before the next major version. After all, they said that ALL the supported (i.e. the ones they are still selling) products will benefit from the new authorization system. That includes the products I have from them (hopefully).

Not sure with Cubase though. If it really happens next year, and Cubase 12 has been released by then, I would think that it requires you to update, if you're still on version 11. Because, they won't sell Cubase 11 anymore then.
What I mean is it might be ready by then ( both for 12 and older versions) as they are still at the investigation stage according to their announcements and not much time left for 11.5.

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KVRAF
6791 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC

Post Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:38 am

Well, I might as well wait for the next sale then. I don't like the idea of buying a dongle that they know will become obsolete. That just doesn't make sense.

If by miracle, they update their plan before May 2nd I'll buy in, but I'm guessing that won't happen since there will be lots of angry new users that were just forced to buy the dongle.

The sale is probably not that well thought out, except that I did see they've removed the stickies from their social media accounts regarding the announcement. It seems like a shady move the more I think about it.

KVRAF
28498 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:45 am

elxsound wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:38 am
Well, I might as well wait for the next sale then. I don't like the idea of buying a dongle that they know will become obsolete. That just doesn't make sense.

If by miracle, they update their plan before May 2nd I'll buy in, but I'm guessing that won't happen since there will be lots of angry new users that were just forced to buy the dongle.
I'm pretty sure the dongle won't be a big problem, when you purchase a product which costs - 582 € for Cubase Pro; 502 € for Wavelab Pro; or 1.000 € for Nuendo. If it then happens that the authorizations switches to a non-dongle solution, your biggest issue will be a piece of plastic in the wastebin.

And, if you buy one of the upgrades which are on sale ATM, then (most likely) you already have a dongle.
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KVRist
466 posts since 3 Jul, 2016

Post Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:57 am

I believe the elicenser will still be in use until at least the end of 2024. Why?
.(.. thinking.).they said they'll give plenty of time for the transition..so..if an announcement is to be made at some point later this year then .. around 2.5y is my plenty.. :hihi: ... anyway I still think the key will still be in use but a verification will have to be made periodically... anyway when an update or upgrade is executed it has to be done online and license is written to the key.

For many life is easier when they don't have to authorize and deauthorize a few machines they use.
Easier to just plug in the key.
I hope the dongle will live. :party:
If not...some form of recycling should take place... imagine them sending everyone a prepaid envelope so you can recycle the electronic key. And you'll get a credit or a discount {32digit personal code :tu: } when making a purchase in the future..

KVRAF
28498 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:00 am

I don't think it will take so long until they come up with the new system. 1 year max IMO.

They said that eLicenser will continue to work for the products which use it, though.
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