Is GForce M-Tron Pro still the best "Tron" vst?

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Saw
KVRist
323 posts since 20 Sep, 2006

Post Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:24 am

Resamp from Logic Sampler, hmmm))
Interesting, thanks!

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Banned
1796 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg

Post Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:25 am

Saw wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 2:27 am
M-Tron Pro crash the Logic 10.5.0 still yet...
Any good news?
The Mellotron which is included in Logic Pro works flawlessly and sounds amazing!
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KVRist
323 posts since 20 Sep, 2006

Post Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:27 am

But Gforce Mello have so many wonderful presets!)

KVRer
6 posts since 6 Feb, 2013

Post Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:30 am

Saw wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:27 am
But Gforce Mello have so many wonderful presets!)
Lol, yes true, however, the presets are only made by mixing said patches and adding rudimentary sound design elements that can be recreated elsewhere. In other words, the samples are the same, and the sound design elements are limited to those offered by the proprietary plugin.

I prefer to have the most raw, authentic sampled tapes. So I sampled the M-Tron, which to my ears is still the best. I sampled it to perfection, and now, A/B tests with raw M-Tron Pro patches/recreated multi-sampled Kontakt patches are truly indistinguishable. As far as the subsequent sound design...well I prefer to design my own signal chain for that.

This way I can create presets that you couldn't dream of on the original VST interface (which, as far as I can see, GForce has essentially designed as a limited 2-oscillator synth). And I'm sure I could recreate most of the presets in another sampler, if I put my mind to it...improve on them maybe! :D

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KVRAF
7583 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Post Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:44 pm

the tape recorded sounds used in a mellotron are lo-fi enough that any of the many samples of it on the internet can make just about any sampler "the best" tron VST
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KVRian
793 posts since 16 Nov, 2004 from Kangzhou

Post Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:25 am

layzer wrote:
Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:44 pm
the tape recorded sounds used in a mellotron are lo-fi enough that any of the many samples of it on the internet can make just about any sampler "the best" tron VST
There are differences in the quality of sound from one set of samples to another. Most of the available sample sets have come from machines with old, worn out tapes. Very few sets made from new tapes are available. Compare the M-Tron Streetly Tapes (sampled from brand new EMI tapes) to the stock M-Tron tapes or to most every other sample sets and you will hear quite a difference in quality.

KVRer
6 posts since 6 Feb, 2013

Post Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:16 am

+1 to what taijiguy said (and thank you, sir, for your tasty samples! I enjoy them very much!)

Not all Mellie samples are created equally, though I’ll agree that the instrument is, by its very nature, forgiving when resampled. I think you could use a potato to record a Mellie and still get usable results, eh?

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22 posts since 14 Jun, 2019

Post Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:08 am

The preset browser list is so slow and irritating to use :?
Decided to convert all the presets (including the expansion tapes) into .fxp files so I could browse/tag them in Bitwig.

Attached/Uploaded it here if anyone else wants them:
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KVRist
367 posts since 28 Jul, 2006

Post Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:47 pm

What is the point of resampling so you don't have to use the gforce plugin? How is the plugin holding anyone back?

KVRian
1291 posts since 2 Jun, 2003

Post Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:08 pm

briefcasemanx wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:47 pm
What is the point of resampling so you don't have to use the gforce plugin? How is the plugin holding anyone back?
I can't speak for that poster, but for me... I think the GUI looks like a 90s Geocities webpage. It's not holding me back, but neither is it particularly inspiring.

I just went from Pro to Complete and the browser is pretty rudimentary. Again, it's not holding me back, but when I read the poster who talked about resampling, I was more intrigued by the possibilities than discouraged by the amount of effort that would require. My $.02.
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KVRian
590 posts since 13 May, 2017 from Virginia

Post Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:45 am

How long does it take to get a response from the contact page? Turns out I bought the wrong edition of the MTron and I'd like to get the "Complete" instead. I should've known it was too good to be true, but I'd like to crossgrade to the Complete if possible, but there doesn't seem to be anything like that on the site.

KVRist
367 posts since 28 Jul, 2006

Post Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:14 pm

What's the historical low price of M-Tron Complete?

I think they had 50% and 60% off sales in the past but I don't know if those discounts applied to the Complete bundle.

Might buy Imposcar at 50% right now but the price for Complete feels a little steep for me still, given it's age and given that I already own Arturia mellotron.

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Post Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:20 pm

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KVRist
367 posts since 28 Jul, 2006

Post Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:06 pm

Thanks for the helpful reply.

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KVRian
696 posts since 2 Sep, 2019

Post Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:33 pm

Don't forget IK's SampleTron
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