Your opinion about Zebra 2

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KVRAF
1772 posts since 5 Oct, 2003

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:34 am

DJErmac wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:34 pm
gentleclockdivider wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:31 pm
DJErmac wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:07 pm
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Zebra2 is super cool for what it does. But when you need a supersaw or anything super modern, go Hive2. .
Dude please , stop it already !
Give me one example of your supermodern sound which you think is not achievable with zebra ( exluding granular + sampling )
OK, this is the exact file I already posted when we had this talk a few months ago.
(no external processing)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14mx2xC ... p=drivesdk
Before this thread, I never knew what a super saw sounded like.

To me, it's one of the ugliest most irritating synth sounds I ever heard, and I kinda gravitate to noisy clangy harsh industrial sounds. Is this one of the so called "supermodern" sounds? Definitely not the music I've been into. What bands use "supersaw"? I want to check them out to make sure I'm not missing something.

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KVRAF
6622 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:38 am

A lot of genres/styles rely heavily on supersaws, particularly trance/house. You don't have to like it, but a lot of people do and are very successful at it.

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KVRAF
2042 posts since 12 Jan, 2019

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:42 am

gentleclockdivider wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:31 am
Fwiw , I don't care about supersaws at all and never understood the hype why people get so obsessed about it .
Well, it's like with so many hobbies/interests--there are those purists. Like my sister's ex boyfriend was the worst of beer snobs--to the point where you could never drink a beer around him and enjoy it.
"Have you ever noticed how anyone driving faster than you is a [jerk] and anyone driving slower than you is a moron?" - George Carlin

KVRist
30 posts since 4 Feb, 2019

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:43 am

One of the greatest synthesisers ever made. It effortlessly excels in workflow, depth, CPU friendly and sounds great. That's my opinion of Zebra 2.

KVRAF
28460 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:45 am

killmaster wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:34 am
DJErmac wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:34 pm
gentleclockdivider wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:31 pm
DJErmac wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:07 pm
.
Zebra2 is super cool for what it does. But when you need a supersaw or anything super modern, go Hive2. .
Dude please , stop it already !
Give me one example of your supermodern sound which you think is not achievable with zebra ( exluding granular + sampling )
OK, this is the exact file I already posted when we had this talk a few months ago.
(no external processing)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14mx2xC ... p=drivesdk
Before this thread, I never knew what a super saw sounded like.

To me, it's one of the ugliest most irritating synth sounds I ever heard, and I kinda gravitate to noisy clangy harsh industrial sounds. Is this one of the so called "supermodern" sounds? Definitely not the music I've been into. What bands use "supersaw"? I want to check them out to make sure I'm not missing something.
I don't know what music you're into, but, if it's not some Minimal Techno stuff or something like that, there most likely is the one or the other (disguised) supersaw sound, pad or something like that, in it as well. It's relly pretty much omnipresent in a lot of electonic music genres.

And, it's no wonder that you get a bit irritated by the sound examples. As I mentioned, you will very rarely hear a non filtered supersaw sound. Typically, they're plucks, pads, leads, with lots of filter modulation going on. And, IMO, the examples also exaggerate a bit on the unison detune.

A short snippet I recorded earlier, with an example you will probably rather hear in Trance music:

https://soundcloud.com/chk-sound/supers ... k-sylenth1
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

KVRAF
28460 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:47 am

Dirtgrain wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:42 am
gentleclockdivider wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:31 am
Fwiw , I don't care about supersaws at all and never understood the hype why people get so obsessed about it .
Well, it's like with so many hobbies/interests--there are those purists. Like my sister's ex boyfriend was the worst of beer snobs--to the point where you could never drink a beer around him and enjoy it.
I think the situation is a bit different here though. It's not the snobs who always start such discussions, it's people who use the respective synths, and get pissed off when you tell them that it can't do some sounds which none of those people care about in the same quality as other synths.

Zebra wasn't really developed with such sounds in mind. Hive rather was. Unless I totally misunderstood the nature of Zebra, of course. ;)
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

KVRAF
1772 posts since 5 Oct, 2003

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:53 am

chk071 wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:45 am
killmaster wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:34 am
DJErmac wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:34 pm
gentleclockdivider wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:31 pm
DJErmac wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:07 pm
.
Zebra2 is super cool for what it does. But when you need a supersaw or anything super modern, go Hive2. .
Dude please , stop it already !
Give me one example of your supermodern sound which you think is not achievable with zebra ( exluding granular + sampling )
OK, this is the exact file I already posted when we had this talk a few months ago.
(no external processing)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14mx2xC ... p=drivesdk
Before this thread, I never knew what a super saw sounded like.

To me, it's one of the ugliest most irritating synth sounds I ever heard, and I kinda gravitate to noisy clangy harsh industrial sounds. Is this one of the so called "supermodern" sounds? Definitely not the music I've been into. What bands use "supersaw"? I want to check them out to make sure I'm not missing something.
I don't know what music you're into, but, if it's not some Minimal Techno stuff or something like that, there most likely is the one or the other (disguised) supersaw sound, pad or something like that, in it as well. It's relly pretty much omnipresent in a lot of electonic music genres.

And, it's no wonder that you get a bit irritated by the sound examples. As I mentioned, you will very rarely hear a non filtered supersaw sound. Typically, they're plucks, pads, leads, with lots of filter modulation going on. And, IMO, the examples also exaggerate a bit on the unison detune.

A short snippet I recorded earlier, with an example you will probably rather hear in Trance music:

https://soundcloud.com/chk-sound/supers ... k-sylenth1
Thanks for the example. Yes, I know that sound pretty well, just don't use it but it has a nice feel to it.

AnX
KVRAF
9391 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:57 am

I prefer hypersaws, or ultrasaws

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KVRist
121 posts since 24 Jan, 2021

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:59 am

killmaster wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:34 am
What bands use "supersaw"? I want to check them out to make sure I'm not missing something.
It's in the Darude track Sandstorm. I'm certain you've heard that one; not because I know you, but because we are on the internet.
I hate signatures too.

KVRAF
5002 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:01 am

Super Piano Hater 64 wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:59 am
killmaster wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:34 am
What bands use "supersaw"? I want to check them out to make sure I'm not missing something.
It's in the Darude track Sandstorm. I'm certain you've heard that one; not because I know you, but because we are on the internet.
Forget that it's just Snake Oil!

KVRAF
28460 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:01 am

AnX wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:57 am
I prefer hypersaws
You need the Virus then. :)
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

KVRAF
28460 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:02 am

Super Piano Hater 64 wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:59 am
killmaster wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:34 am
What bands use "supersaw"? I want to check them out to make sure I'm not missing something.
It's in the Darude track Sandstorm. I'm certain you've heard that one; not because I know you, but because we are on the internet.
Most ugly example of it though. :lol:
Plugins and a DAW. On an operating system. Which runs on a computer.

AnX
KVRAF
9391 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:09 am

chk071 wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:01 am
AnX wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:57 am
I prefer hypersaws
You need the Virus then. :)
but I've just been vaccinated :cry:

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KVRian
1367 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:11 am

An exemple of a supersaw I absolutely love (from 1’33) :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1_mxkpWSWIQ
This post is supposed to be non-agressive. Now please give me a broad smile. :ud:

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addled muppet weed
79175 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:11 am

AnX wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:09 am
chk071 wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:01 am
AnX wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:57 am
I prefer hypersaws
You need the Virus then. :)
but I've just been vaccinated :cry:
serum?

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