IMO, no. I never quite understood the term though.
Your opinion about Zebra 2
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- KVRAF
- 9144 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Thanks. I'll check it outpdxindy wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:27 pmThe Zebra 3 thread in the u-he forum has lots of little tidbits of info on Z3 if you read through it.EnGee wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:04 amOk, so no new oscillatorsUrs wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:50 amI just admitted, I have absolutely no idea what role the oscillators play at allEnGee wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:45 am How about the oscillators and filters in Zebra 3? What can Urs tell us about them?
I believe this is the most interesting information the owners of Zebra 2 want to hear? Isn't it?
What about the filters? Other enhancements? I'm dying to have some info about Zebra 3
Forget about the SuperSaw! You did the Hive, that's enough!
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.
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- KVRAF
- 16728 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
The use of the term goes way back. Before, wait for it, EDM was popular. Ok, before electronic dance music exploded in popularity, the term was meant as a catchall term for all things electronic dance music (except rap/hip hop). The general public might have used techno for that purpose, but for anyone who knew what techno was, that was incorrect.
Sometime in the relatively recent past, younguns started to use the word to refer to their particular shite brand of "music" that is the bastard child of obnoxious trance and twice obnoxious X-step (X is a variable). Trance was already the ugly foster child of proper underground electronic dance music. Hmm, let's just go with underground dance music, or UDM. That's what I'm going to use from now on. It means all tasteful and worthwhile electronic dance music that is played at proper parties and clubs. Note, by definition it does not include EDM. Ok, back to where we were. I guess we can't ignore the unfortunate and improperly named and equally unfortunate Electro House era. Ok, back to the rant.
So it now causes confusion, especially among the younguns who don't realize that they co-opted a term that already had a definition. Even though the old farts would like to use it in its proper umbrella capacity, they don't want to be seen as talking about this new brand of shite, so, we just get old and ignore the youngsters with their gizmo-widgets and thinger-ma-jobs, as we should.
We still enjoy UDM though.
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- KVRAF
- 2575 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from gone
The question is : can you imagine a DJ playing it in clubbing or a huge party and not being booed nowadays ?arkmabat wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:56 pm Is this EDM? It's certainly electronic and you can definitely dance to it.
Yes => it’s EDM
No => it’s not
No personal tastes involved. I listen to metal, reggae, rock, pop...
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- addled muppet weed
- 111253 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 16728 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Especially Dumb "Music"vurt wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:25 pmwhen i was a teen, bands like autopsy, kreator, other german stuff would be under edm
death/obituary and such under usadm
(european death metal)
ODM would have been better, Obnoxious Dance Music.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111253 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
extreme aggressionghettosynth wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:29 pmEspecially Dumb "Music"vurt wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:25 pmwhen i was a teen, bands like autopsy, kreator, other german stuff would be under edm
death/obituary and such under usadm
(european death metal)
ODM would have been better, Obnoxious Dance Music.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111253 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 2575 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from gone
The only message I’m here for is that hammers are not used by gardeners, and synthesizers are not used by waltz composers : EDM is a true huge market when you make synths. They are the ones who use the most the synths in actual modern music market !! If EDM makers say they can’t use your synth, to me it appears some options might be thought about.
But I’ve perfectly understood Urs is open to suggestions and will think about it, no problem, I’m only clarifying my position. I know most of you don’t give a s#it about EDM and I’m fine with it.
But I’ve perfectly understood Urs is open to suggestions and will think about it, no problem, I’m only clarifying my position. I know most of you don’t give a s#it about EDM and I’m fine with it.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111253 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
what if they're fixing the fence?DJErmac wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:38 pm The only message I’m here for is that hammers are not used by gardeners, and synthesizers are not used by waltz composers : EDM is a true huge market when you make synths. They are the ones who use the most the synths in actual modern music market !! If EDM makers say they can’t use your synth, to me it appears some options might be thought about.
But I’ve perfectly understood Urs is open to suggestions and will think about it, no problem, I’m only clarifying my position. I know most of you don’t give a s#it about EDM and I’m fine with it.
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- KVRAF
- 16728 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Not that I'm a fan of obnoxious metal either, but I was really still ranting about modern abuse of plugins to create abominations that are pure blasphemy.vurt wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:34 pmextreme aggressionghettosynth wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:29 pmEspecially Dumb "Music"vurt wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:25 pmwhen i was a teen, bands like autopsy, kreator, other german stuff would be under edm
death/obituary and such under usadm
(european death metal)
ODM would have been better, Obnoxious Dance Music.
I'm going to need some Eliana to bring my blood pressure down a bit.
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- KVRAF
- 16728 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Right? How offensive to think that a gardener wouldn't use a hammer.vurt wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:40 pmwhat if they're fixing the fence?DJErmac wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:38 pm The only message I’m here for is that hammers are not used by gardeners, and synthesizers are not used by waltz composers : EDM is a true huge market when you make synths. They are the ones who use the most the synths in actual modern music market !! If EDM makers say they can’t use your synth, to me it appears some options might be thought about.
But I’ve perfectly understood Urs is open to suggestions and will think about it, no problem, I’m only clarifying my position. I know most of you don’t give a s#it about EDM and I’m fine with it.
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- KVRAF
- 2575 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from gone
vurt wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:40 pmwhat if they're fixing the fence?DJErmac wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:38 pm The only message I’m here for is that hammers are not used by gardeners, and synthesizers are not used by waltz composers : EDM is a true huge market when you make synths. They are the ones who use the most the synths in actual modern music market !! If EDM makers say they can’t use your synth, to me it appears some options might be thought about.
But I’ve perfectly understood Urs is open to suggestions and will think about it, no problem, I’m only clarifying my position. I know most of you don’t give a s#it about EDM and I’m fine with it.
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- KVRAF
- 16728 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
That sounds like the perfect genre for HZ sounds.arkmabat wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:42 pm To be fair, I would certainly reach for Zebra if I were asked to make Waltz EDM.