What drives you crazy in Bitwig?

[dupont]

the grid : too much time to learn how it works.

[antic604]

the grid : too much time to learn how it works.

2h and you're pretty much there:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... yVqr8Iu6Ue

[dupont]

the grid : too much time to learn how it works.

2h and you're pretty much there:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... yVqr8Iu6Ue

Thanks for the link. I lost 1 hour this morning to unserstand how to make a simple arpegiator !
I don't think I will spend to much time to learn how to build a synth. Music is already a time consuming activity.

[xbitz]

^^^ Polymer can be converted to grid (with the selected components) so don't have to waste too much time just add the needed plus elements after the conversion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy_0ULE9dnk

[Tj Shredder]

the grid : too much time to learn how it works.

2h and you're pretty much there:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... yVqr8Iu6Ue

Thanks for the link. I lost 1 hour this morning to unserstand how to make a simple arpegiator !
I don't think I will spend to much time to learn how to build a synth. Music is already a time consuming activity.

You don’t know yet how much easier it is to make a synth vs. an arpeggiator in the Grid. I mean just opening the Grid gives you one already... For an arpeggiator there is not only the Midi Grid missing, also some other objects to make it easier... I guess thats why Bitwig comes with a damn good arpeggiator device in the first place...

[pdxindy]

the grid : too much time to learn how it works.

2h and you're pretty much there:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... yVqr8Iu6Ue

Thanks for the link. I lost 1 hour this morning to unserstand how to make a simple arpegiator !
I don't think I will spend to much time to learn how to build a synth. Music is already a time consuming activity.

That is cause the Grid is not yet suitable for making an arpeggiator. It would need midi out and some new modules for voicing.

[xbitz]

^^^ there was a tutorial maybe that was it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUo98r9wpw4

[dupont]

^^^ there was a tutorial maybe that was it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUo98r9wpw4

Thanks for the link.
I watched the vid and spent 2 hours with grid.
I was even not abble to assign velocity module to volume : where must I connect that fu..ing wire ???
All I get is a 80s comodore 64 chip tune !
that's frustrating and annoying.
This is poorly designed and not logical worflow.
I don't want to use a plugin when a hi scool degree in math is needed to understand how it works, it kills creatuvity and the make it simple phylosophie.
this experience disgusted me with Bitwig.
I'll stay away from Bitwig for a while and go back to logic, made for musicians not a DAW made for engineers.

Edit : I found this vid about velocity sensitive patch. What a mess, I will have never find the solution by myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2egzMCZ-N4E

[Josephhh]

^^^ there was a tutorial maybe that was it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUo98r9wpw4

Thanks for the link.
I watched the vid and spent 2 hours with grid.
I was even not abble to assign velocity module to volume : where must I connect that fu..ing wire ???
All I get is a 80s comodore 64 chip tune !
that's frustrating and annoying.
This is poorly designed and not logical worflow.
I don't want to use a plugin when a hi scool degree in math is needed to understand how it works, it kills creatuvity and the make it simple phylosophie.
this experience disgusted me with Bitwig.
I'll stay away from Bitwig for a while and go back to logic, made for musicians not a DAW made for engineers.

Sorry dude/dudette but that got a laugh out of me.

Cheers

[MegaPixel]

I watched the vid and spent 2 hours with grid.
I was even not abble to assign velocity module to volume : where must I connect that fu..ing wire ???
All I get is a 80s comodore 64 chip tune !
that's frustrating and annoying.
This is poorly designed and not logical worflow.
I don't want to use a plugin when a hi scool degree in math is needed to understand how it works, it kills creatuvity and the make it simple phylosophie.
this experience disgusted me with Bitwig.
I'll stay away from Bitwig for a while and go back to logic, made for musicians not a DAW made for engineers.

I like you don't think much of the Grid thing, just don's use it, I don't..

I think it's for these guys with hardware instruments everywhere and cables going all over the place... Probably like a server rack room.

For me, the rest of bitwig does a fine job, its workflow, ease of use and modularity make it my choice. As for anything else here come the VSTs...

As for the grid, I opened a few times, looks cool, I made some rubbish noises with it, or complete silence and never looked at it again, and have no interest in re-visiting it or learning it, I'm happy with the rest of the stuff.

[dupont]

I like you don't think much of the Grid thing, just don's use it, I don't..

I think it's for these guys with hardware instruments everywhere and cables going all over the place... Probably like a server rack room.

For me, the rest of bitwig does a fine job, its workflow, ease of use and modularity make it my choice. As for anything else here come the VSTs...

As for the grid, I opened a few times, looks cool, I made some rubbish noises with it, or complete silence and never looked at it again, and have no interest in re-visiting it or learning it, I'm happy with the rest of the stuff.

Yes, I think It is the way to go for me.

[xbitz]

^^^ stacking useful in it even if you don't create synths etc. so can create parallel fx layers using the Voice stack modulator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsH-4pCFwg8
which even can be modulated further so a lovely sound shaping tool

[JHernandez]

I like you don't think much of the Grid thing, just don's use it, I don't..

I think it's for these guys with hardware instruments everywhere and cables going all over the place... Probably like a server rack room.

For me, the rest of bitwig does a fine job, its workflow, ease of use and modularity make it my choice. As for anything else here come the VSTs...

As for the grid, I opened a few times, looks cool, I made some rubbish noises with it, or complete silence and never looked at it again, and have no interest in re-visiting it or learning it, I'm happy with the rest of the stuff.

Yes, I think It is the way to go for me.

I don't use the Grid either. Maybe one day when I'm in the mood to learn technical crap instead of making music. I use hardware and Bitwig's instruments, devices, modulation system, macros and a few VSTs. I came from using Logic exclusively, since 5.x.x to when I started using Bitwig in Jan of 2018. Big change.

[MegaPixel]

I don't use the Grid either. Maybe one day when I'm in the mood to learn technical crap instead of making music. I use hardware and Bitwig's instruments, devices, modulation system, macros and a few VSTs. I came from using Logic exclusively, since 5.x.x to when I started using Bitwig in Jan of 2018. Big change.

That's one DAW I've never tried (Logic), mac only, I'm a pc guy...

BitWig is great and all, but it does have it's issues, piano roll, hidden or hard to find settings, pain in the ass scene window when you have 3 or more clips (I've started making new empty instrument rows, for clips instead of scrolling), no good visuals or options for times in real time h,m,s,ms not bars for play, export etc, countless UI shortcomings, and not to mention them mental scroll bars which zoom and scroll (drives me nuts you that) etc etc on and on...

But after all that, just like my programming tools, if they are more trouble than they are worth, slow, don't enable me to to do what I need and be productive and hit the road running, I don't give a flying **** as to what software it is or whether it's for work or pleasure, it's out of my toolset. FLStudio was this to me, now I find it hinders me more than enables me... It's for this reason I didn't choose cubase and ableton, however ableton being much simpler than cubase, ableton's workflow for me was god awful and yet none of them have decent piano rolls, best is still FLStudio's but even that needs a lot of improvements.

From the DAWs that've used:

BitWig - Has its issues, really shait piano roll, stupid zoom on scrollbars, but quick, modular, easy to use and I can get creative / productive quickly.

FLStudio - Once you get past the surface you soon find it to be cumbersome, cluttered, odd ways to achieve certain things and then it really starts to show how clumsy it is. Many parts are great but, many are "why the **** haven't you fixed or changed that in 10+ years?".

Cubase - UI is a shit show, don't want to waste my time with it, I would rather learn to program cobol and quantum mathematics at the same time...

Ableton - lite, full, unleaded, leaded whatever - Can't stand the workflow process, not to much of a fan of the ui either, crashed a lot last time I tried it, another shait piano roll but 2nd best piano roll out of all of them, FL 1st but all fall short of great (perfection is impossible to obtain).

Octamed - Tracker heaven but those days are gone... But I hear there is a DAW out there that works like (forgot name) that still but not my cup of tea anymore...

[excuse me please]

Renoise (had to google, although I knew it started with the same letters as Reason and Reaper).