KVR Audio

arkmabat · Post by **arkmabat** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:12 am

I mean, as long as they don't up and completely disappear, I got the whole bundle super cheap and love the delay. Let me tell you, The Streets Have No Name out here.

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:07 am

How do they let us know about updates ? As i've heard nothing from them regarding that maintenance update ?

I'd like them to update their installer programs, something like the Izotope installer would be good.

jcolle · Post by **jcolle** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:55 pm

accessdune3 wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:26 pm They are i think, just they are incdredibly slow. I gave some feedback almost exactly 2 years ago (2019 April 17 recieved answer) about UI and this is what they replied.

We are also working towards implementing some changes re: GUI, but I have no explicit knowledge of anything regarding a timeline (or even what they might be planning) - we'll make sure and email our users as soon as we implement any updates.
2 years ago they have been "working" on this

MogwaiBoy · Post by **MogwaiBoy** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:04 am

chk071 wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:58 pm
MogwaiBoy wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:44 pm Covid? Considering they have no physical packaging, warehousing or transportation to deal with - they are operating a 100% profit margin on 15 year old plugins.
Right... if you totally forget that they permanently have to pay their employees, pay for advertising, for download servers, their website, their office, and what not.

Yes, I know - I was being facetious

And I can continue being facetious by saying.... "Yeah - paying employees? Employees who don't even implement basic improvements like GUI scaling in their plugins over several decades?"

soundslikeash · Post by **soundslikeash** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:02 pm

I think SoundToys are a small team and try to fit their plugins in spaces in the market that other plugins don’t cover. A tough challenge but I’m hoping that’s the reason for the lack of new products!

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:27 pm

Some Soundtoys stuff on sale at Plugin Boutique this week ... up to 78% off

2:43AM · Post by **2:43AM** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:05 am

beckerley wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:32 pm Nothing since Little Plate from 2017....

Thought it was the Effect Rack? Was that 2019 or 2020. Time flies, and I forget!

Soundtoys has good, tried-and-true products, and I think that's what they're resting on. They actually have phone support, which is odd. In order to get a demo working again during one of their holiday sales a few years back, I called them and actually talked to a live person to get it going again! Crazy!

Dxnny · Post by **Dxnny** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:47 am

I just received an email from Soundtoys "Get Ready to Upgrade" apparently they are going to have a 50% upgrade sale in mid August lasting 4 weeks and they are upgrading their account systems. I think this gonna be it..! Soundtoys 6 might be coming...?

mixyguy2 · Post by **mixyguy2** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:55 am

If their existing stuff is selling well, there's not a ton of incentive to come out with new stuff just for the sake of coming out with new stuff (which I have always hated...I'm looking at you POS Microsoft, among others but leading the charge).

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:10 am

mixyguy2 wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:55 am If their existing stuff is selling well, there's not a ton of incentive to come out with new stuff just for the sake of coming out with new stuff (which I have always hated...I'm looking at you POS Microsoft, among others but leading the charge).

But there are many valid reasons for coming up with new versions. First off, there’s noticeable aliasing on things like Decapitator. It was fine in its day, but you no longer can get away with that in 2022. Second, the UIs could definitely need a clean up and become scalable. Throw in a few new algorithms for fun, and I’ll pay for an upgrade.

mixyguy2 · Post by **mixyguy2** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:39 am

Fair enough. But again if sales are still strong.......

bungle · Post by **bungle** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:37 am

Dxnny wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:47 am I just received an email from Soundtoys "Get Ready to Upgrade" apparently they are going to have a 50% upgrade sale in mid August lasting 4 weeks and they are upgrading their account systems. I think this gonna be it..! Soundtoys 6 might be coming...?

Unless you bought second hand, support have just confirmed that they no longer support second hand sales (Even though it is ilok) and anybody who bought second hand will not get any upgrade pricing at all, you will have to buy the next version at full price.
Absolute scumbaggery at its worst.

jens · Post by **jens** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:27 am

mixyguy2 wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:39 am Fair enough. But again if sales are still strong.......

What do you think, how strong are sales amongst those of us who already own the full V5?

mothra · Post by **mothra** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:45 pm

bungle wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:37 am Unless you bought second hand, support have just confirmed that they no longer support second hand sales (Even though it is ilok) and anybody who bought second hand will not get any upgrade pricing at all, you will have to buy the next version at full price.
Absolute scumbaggery at its worst.

How is that 'scumbaggery'? Many companies do not allow transfer of warranty or support on their products. What makes Soundtoys so different that THEY'RE the scumbags when they're following what seems to be a normal industry practice? You call my work with a monitor or projector you bought from someone on Craigslist or Ebay, sorry no warranty for you. How is the company supposed to survive if their customers sell off their bundle when they move on to the latest 'flavor of the week' and instead of buying new licenses people just keep recycling second hand ones?

Anyways here's to hoping the VST3s are ready! They were supposed to do a public beta test for them but sounds like they might be wrapped up and ready to go already.

ralfrobert · Post by **ralfrobert** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:50 pm

Reading all this, I am glad I sold my bundle years ago. This hot mess is not for me this time.

I think one of the problems is that all of this happened very hush-hush.

SOUNDTOYS : Facts, Rumours and Expectations