Applied Accoustic Systems has a modular now I guess

[masterhiggins]

Doesn’t that kind of defeat the purpose of software?

[KBSoundSmith]

Doesn’t that kind of defeat the purpose of software?

Yes and no. Polyphony is an obvious advantage of software, but there are some things a truly monophonic synth can have in its signal path (especially regarding feedback, if I recall correctly) that can't really be done with polyphonic instruments -- I remember reading that Urs of u-he had mentioned wanting to do various projects to explore such areas but has chosen not to do so since the economic demand for polyphony is generally greater than the demand for exploring the farther reaches of signal processing (ie the money isn't there to justify R&D).

[simmo75]

Doesn’t that kind of defeat the purpose of software?

I totally agree & would love to see this implemented in the future.

[SLiC]

Is there any way to make it Polyphonic?

I think you have to do it as if it were hardware.

VCV started out mono and they they added polyphonic modes and cables much later. I think VM was always polyphonic (not sure, I dint come in until V2 and it was then!)

They can definitely make it much easier to make it poly patches if they want to go that way...its the big benefit of software modular (that and the cost!) but who knows what they have planned- I would love to see a road map...is this the final product or the start of something bigger! Have AAS said anything?!

[ghettosynth]

I would love to see a road map...is this the final product or the start of something bigger! Have AAS said anything?!

I don't think so and I looked. Of course I might have missed it.

[twoodts]

https://twitter.com/AAS_News/status/138 ... 81761?s=19
In this tweet's comments they said they plan on adding more modules. Don't know if they are included in the base price or do you have to buy them separately.

[Shabdahbriah]

VCV started out mono and they they added polyphonic modes and cables much later. I think VM was always polyphonic (not sure, I dint come in until V2 and it was then!)

Pretty sure it was mono, as I remember feeling like all the poly modules were cluttering my 'library' view when they were introduced, and I didn't care about poly. But then the PSP stuff followed suit, and I converted.

That's a really cool thing about VM and to a degree PSP (ultimate package anyway), "value" continues to be regularly added, for free.

{aside} would love to see more major players get into it, like Urs doing 'Uhbik' for VM.

[foosnark]

If you use modular primarily, chances are you don't even really think about polyphony. That's what non-modular supplemental synths are for.

The thing about modular is that CV is not a stream of commands, it's just a voltage. Audio is a voltage, pitch is a voltage, gates are just a voltage. The voltage can come from anywhere and be interpreted by anything. All of those voltages are completely independent.

With polyphony, you have a stream of Note On / Note Off commands with note numbers. This means that modules are not fully independent of each other, and often, it forces the use of MIDI.

This has some pretty serious consequences for composition. Monophony is a kind of sacrifice, but polyphony is a kind of sacrifice as well.

There are a few polyphonic modules in Eurorack -- MIDI-controlled, with their own built-in VCAs, so they're really only quasi-modular -- basically a desktop synth stuck into 3HP rails running off of +/-12V power. There are also some quasi-polyphonic modules, which more often than not, invite new methods of control and composition. And of course, some people get quad oscillators, quad envelopes and quad VCAs and patch their own polyphony the hard way. Mostly though, we use monophonic voices.

I haven't used MIDI to control my modular since 2018, and I barely use it for software synths (I have a Bitwig chain preset which forces a permanently held Note On message, or sometimes I will use the arpeggiator in my Microfreak to control a software synth). The main purpose of MIDI for me is sending CC messages from faders.

[SLiC]

Absolutely, I have 500hp of Euro but it’s mainly different types oscillators (other than a couple of dixies)...way too expensive to play real chords, happy with implied intervals!

Software of course is different, no need for any self imposed limitations (only CPU imposed) so I want a poly modular in software, I have a mono modular in hardware! It’s nice to have the poly option as VM etc can be plugged in to your DAW and just use as a patched synth...a home made instrument rather than a compete sequence (which is what I tend to do with my Hardware)

[dlandis]

delete

[tommyzai]

I picked this up yesterday and have been noodling non-stop for hours. I wrote a little first impressions user thingy if anyone's interested. I posted on the forum and product page.

[aMUSEd]

Is there any way to make it Polyphonic?

I think you have to do it as if it were hardware.

VCV started out mono and they they added polyphonic modes and cables much later. I think VM was always polyphonic (not sure, I dint come in until V2 and it was then!)

They can definitely make it much easier to make it poly patches if they want to go that way...its the big benefit of software modular (that and the cost!) but who knows what they have planned- I would love to see a road map...is this the final product or the start of something bigger! Have AAS said anything?!

I don't like VM having separate poly and mono modules though - Softube Modular, the P900 Modular and Bitwig's Grid seem to manage fine having poly or mono patches without needing different modules (and so does my Nord G2 Modular)

Hope Multiphonics gets a user friendly poly option

[kingtubby]

I noted a couple of points from the manual.

In the classic-vco section it says -
"The maximum oscillator frequency is limited to 13000Hz, which is slightly above the frequency of the highest MIDI note. At a sampling rate of 44.1kHz or 48kHz, some aliasing can be heard in the upper range, especially when using the hard sync or FM features."

In the delay module section it says -
"In a software synthesizer, modules are processed sequentially and work on very short chunks of audio signals. Multiphonics modules process chunks of half a millisecond at a time."

I don't pretend to know all that much about this stuff but it seems like that might be problematic when using audio-rate modulation?

Could this be part of the reason why Multiphonics has relatively low cpu demands?

[jonalyn]

after 2 hours of patching and having good result and NO CPU overload , i must admit this is the best fully modular VST at this moment.

[tommyzai]

I sent a feature request list to customer service. I begged for a sampler module, expanded physical modeling modules, and interface scaling (100%, 75%, 50%, 25%). I'm hopeful/optimistic that future updates will expand CV-1 into an aural bliss.