I need a limiter and two are on sale: IK Stealth or PSP Xenon?

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KVRist
106 posts since 3 Aug, 2014

Post Sun May 02, 2021 11:04 pm

I've been using free limiters and they've served me pretty well, but I've been wanting a really good limiter for a while and I just found out today that two of them that are generally regarded as being among the best available are both on sale for no brainer prices. As in, under thirty dollars apiece.

So it's the PSP Xenon and the IK Stealth Limiter. Help me decide which one I should go for. I'm doing hard rock and metal mostly, and I'm not interested in joining the Loudness Wars; I won't be pushing for crazy levels, and I'd prefer transparency over character.

Thanks for your input, ladies and gents. 8)

KVRist
378 posts since 3 Oct, 2018 from Spain

Post Mon May 03, 2021 12:20 am

I have only used PSP Xenon and it should work for the kind of music that you do. For electronic music with heavy bass, I like others better. I haven't tried the Ik limiter as I try not to use anything IK because you have to install several programs and download all their plugins just to use one. Anyway, my recommendation is that you test both of them. With limiters, it is important that you feel comfortable using them and understand all the parameters to find a good sound.

KVRian
1040 posts since 17 Jun, 2012

Post Mon May 03, 2021 12:57 am

I own Stealth Limiter and demoed the Xenon some years back. Personally I'd go with Stealth as it is my go to. It is the cleanest and most transparent IMHO out of all the limiters I've owned or tried and it has some great options for filtering and adding harmonics to preserve the transients. The only knock I would say is I do lose a tiny bit of the bottom end energy compared to other good limiters but you can compensate by adding a bit more bottom end just before hitting the limiter.

Xenon was a great alternative to the old Waves L1 back in the day when options were sparse but this one in 2021 I just rate as just OK. It doesn't preserve the transients especially on the snare as well as the IK Stealth and doesn't sound quite as clean or transparent. For what it's worth I can also push the Stealth way harder before it craps out.

FYI, I'm a rock and metal guy.

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KVRian
999 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland

Post Mon May 03, 2021 3:23 am

Stealth is highly underrated. I own a lot of limiters and Stealth still gets used a lot. Very transparent and also very quick to set up.
Demoed Xenon a while back and wasn't impressed, it felt outdated.

But yeah, demo both. When you're not pushing limiters too hard there shouldn't be too much difference in sound.
More BPM please

KVRAF
1736 posts since 28 Sep, 2012

Post Mon May 03, 2021 3:57 am

I know this is not exactly what your looking for, but I’m using FIRComp 2 as a limiter and dare say I’m getting pretty good results. Very cheap and transparent, but of course it’s not a “true” limiter. Otherwise, I use Newfangled Elevate, which is incredible, but it’s not on sale.

KVRian
962 posts since 16 Jan, 2018 from Portland, OR USA

Post Mon May 03, 2021 8:16 am

I've never been let down by any of my PSP plugins.
I also have the Ik and I don't use it. But it's good. Either way. you're good!
“In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.”

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KVRAF
4324 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Post Mon May 03, 2021 1:36 pm

If you like tweeking, Xenon will satisfy. It has many features to help dial in a best sound including multiple limit stages, dynamics etc.

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KVRAF
6975 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA

Post Mon May 03, 2021 1:53 pm

It is a total no brainer. The PSP limiter is sooo good. Demo it and compare to the IK. I've compared it to many and it simply sounds the best.
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KVRAF
3074 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle

Post Mon May 03, 2021 2:23 pm

perpetual3 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 3:57 am
I know this is not exactly what your looking for, but I’m using FIRComp 2 as a limiter and dare say I’m getting pretty good results. Very cheap and transparent, but of course it’s not a “true” limiter. Otherwise, I use Newfangled Elevate, which is incredible, but it’s not on sale.
This!
You get an incredible compressor and limiter for $25.

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KVRAF
7310 posts since 20 Oct, 2009

Post Mon May 03, 2021 2:44 pm

simmo75 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 2:23 pm
You get an incredible compressor and limiter for $25.
Stealth Limiter is currently $25 too, on sale
EXPOSED (as sounding ******* fantastic!)
T-RackS Sunset Sound Studio Reverb

KVRAF
3074 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle

Post Mon May 03, 2021 2:49 pm

Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 2:44 pm
simmo75 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 2:23 pm
You get an incredible compressor and limiter for $25.
Stealth Limiter is currently $25 too, on sale
Indeed, I don't think it's as good though, hence my comment :D

KVRAF
2052 posts since 30 Aug, 2012 from Sweden

Post Mon May 03, 2021 3:05 pm

fcamp wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 12:20 am
I have only used PSP Xenon and it should work for the kind of music that you do. For electronic music with heavy bass, I like others better. I haven't tried the Ik limiter as I try not to use anything IK because you have to install several programs and download all their plugins just to use one. Anyway, my recommendation is that you test both of them. With limiters, it is important that you feel comfortable using them and understand all the parameters to find a good sound.
Music genre has nothing to do which limiter is used.

KVRist
378 posts since 3 Oct, 2018 from Spain

Post Mon May 03, 2021 10:46 pm

In music genres where you don't have to push the volume it doesn't matter. If you go for loudness, I think it does. But I am not a mastering engineer, that's only my experience.

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KVRAF
7310 posts since 20 Oct, 2009

Post Tue May 04, 2021 8:45 am

simmo75 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 2:49 pm
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 2:44 pm
simmo75 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 2:23 pm
You get an incredible compressor and limiter for $25.
Stealth Limiter is currently $25 too, on sale
Indeed, I don't think it's as good though, hence my comment :D
Judging by other comments, it seems it is at least as good if not better. :D
EXPOSED (as sounding ******* fantastic!)
T-RackS Sunset Sound Studio Reverb

KVRAF
3074 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle

Post Tue May 04, 2021 8:47 am

Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 8:45 am
simmo75 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 2:49 pm
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 2:44 pm
simmo75 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 2:23 pm
You get an incredible compressor and limiter for $25.
Stealth Limiter is currently $25 too, on sale
Indeed, I don't think it's as good though, hence my comment :D
Judging by other comments, it seems it is at least as good if not better. :D
Haha, obviously no bias though Peter ;)

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