the background noise in some 90ies trance songs

[excuse me please]

Also wondered why 90s producers do not give feedback. But what I understand of it: the guys who produced these tracks somehow don't want to be reminded to the past. Understandable; they never got to that level again. So they don't say how they did it. That's my take on it.

So I'm busy for years as a hobby to "recreate" stuff. It's a slow process.

[juno987654321]

It won't matter. We will find out! I'm getting closer and closer. It's just normal in our society. Most people only start working when you put a coin in their head...

[excuse me please]

I'm pretty creative myself, that's not the point. But to create a certain feeling, a true positive vibe, which moves the masses, that's a different ball game

[juno987654321]

True, but if you want to learn how to recreate specific sounds creativity alone won't always help you most. Sometimes someone who were to share ideas and experience would be more to the point then. Creativity is not much of a problem to me, too. But I also try to learn how to recreate some sounds and that needs some technical inside knowledge...

[juno987654321]

I think I've come REALLY close now after working for 2 more hours on this sound. It won't matter all THAT much now if there's noone of those "professionals" making a move to help other people.
Hmn: it's just a little sad after all...
Let them sit in their isolated little studios and keep their stuff to themselves then or beg people for some likes or subscriptions on youtube...

[DJErmac]

This is the choir synth changing chords that produces this noise. Everytime the synth changes chord, the "noise" changes tone.

It's not added noise, it's a specific choir synth.

What you're hearing is basically this :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PdMMfX ... sp=sharing

You can hear the choir synth alone from 0'49 very clearly. It's it, simply it, that produces a noisy tone to the track, 100% sure.

[surreal]

This is the choir synth changing chords that produces this noise. Everytime the synth changes chord, the "noise" changes tone.

It's not added noise, it's a specific choir synth.

What you're hearing is basically this :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PdMMfX ... sp=sharing

You can hear the choir synth alone from 0'49 very clearly. It's it, simply it, that produces a noisy tone to the track, 100% sure.

What synth is this from? I love this choir sound!!

[DJErmac]

This is the choir synth changing chords that produces this noise. Everytime the synth changes chord, the "noise" changes tone.

It's not added noise, it's a specific choir synth.

What you're hearing is basically this :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PdMMfX ... sp=sharing

You can hear the choir synth alone from 0'49 very clearly. It's it, simply it, that produces a noisy tone to the track, 100% sure.

What synth is this from? I love this choir sound!!

It’s from an Avenger expansion called Makina vol 1.
https://www.rewiredrecords.co.uk/produc ... st-presets
It contains the most appropriate synth choirs for this example, there are a tons of.

[surreal]

This is the choir synth changing chords that produces this noise. Everytime the synth changes chord, the "noise" changes tone.

It's not added noise, it's a specific choir synth.

What you're hearing is basically this :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PdMMfX ... sp=sharing

You can hear the choir synth alone from 0'49 very clearly. It's it, simply it, that produces a noisy tone to the track, 100% sure.

What synth is this from? I love this choir sound!!

It’s from an Avenger expansion called Makina vol 1.
https://www.rewiredrecords.co.uk/produc ... st-presets
It contains the most appropriate synth choirs for this example, there are a tons of.

That's so nice.. I wish I could afford it!! I have avenger but cant afford any expansions for it!

[surreal]

Thanks for the info DJ Earmac

[larm]

Yeah, sounds like typical ROM vox samples from old 90s gear, korg, jv, kawai.. probably some aliasing too

Check patch 23 choir, 63 voices

https://youtu.be/HNcpmtNbxj4?t=417

Kawai K4 aliasing....
https://youtu.be/262GASwuSjQ

[DJErmac]

Yes, I’ve tried using the Korg M1 to recreate this choir as it was one of the most used synth of the era, and it simply didn’t work, the agressive airy ”noise” isn’t there. Must be another synth. It’s not from the Roland JV series also, I don’t know where this one is from.

[larm]

Thinking it could be layering with simple "osc" overtone sines pitched +12 or similar that alias like mad when played in romplers, usually at the back of the wave-list with names like SinOdd3, Pulse2Lo, SqrInv

EMU Proteus stuff, some voices there too patch 34

https://youtu.be/_Z562OuYRXQ

[Rastkovic]

I also isolated the noise from a more HQ sample using an EQ so you could hear it much more clearly here and the above video is only supposed to give you the context:

https://sndup.net/2g3q

I tried to get this kind of noise the other day using Serum. I got closest to it with a type of noise called "AirCan5" or "CymLoop" in combination with a HP filter 12db/oct with resonance, tried to pitch it up, tried some EQing... still not REALLY the sound!

Just an idea....

Maybe the kind of gating is not unimportant, it sounds like gated by hihats. I'm still prefer oldschool sidechain compression and gating techniques. Personally it sounds "better", more breathing to me. Using plugins like LFO Tool or Volume Shaper lead me to different, more clinical results.

[juno987654321]

Oh, you mean the hihats are also used to have an effect on the volume of the noise (volume goes down when hihats appear?) via sidechain compression?
Is that what you mean or do I understand you wrong?
Good idea: it would add to the breathing quality of the noise.