Best overall software reverb under $250?
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- KVRAF
- 6458 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 1742 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
Any Valhalla seems to be very popular on here and probably for good reason. Ive gone back to using 112db just recently and getting some very pleasing results
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
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- KVRAF
- 15515 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
He's very engaged and discusses reverb readily both here and on his blog. Sadly, I don't have one of Sean's reverbs and I feel a bit guilty about that. I should go snap up shimmerverb just because I use those kinds of sounds quite a bit.ramseysounds wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 11:05 am Any Valhalla seems to be very popular on here and probably for good reason. Ive gone back to using 112db just recently and getting some very pleasing results
Ok, but why is that? It's because I tend to buy plugins like this:
https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/ ... everb-Pack
And at the end of the day, as I said earlier in this thread, I think that this is the way to round out your reverb collection if you are on a budget. These are excellent reverbs that, for a while, would never go on any real sale. Since iZotope bought them out, however, these go on sale regularly but they're no less capable than they were in the past.
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- KVRian
- 1086 posts since 17 Jun, 2012
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
What I use, and I use it in every track and not a lot else for reverberation, when it is it's a delay, comes in a bundle with an EQ; a "Master EQ" with more bands and control; Compressor; Multiband comp; Limiter; Exciter; Analyzer; Goniometer; and Power Panner and a matrix for surround. In two flavors, a Convolution 'verb and a Hybrid, which has an algo late reflections. with a lot of control.
Usually eschew bringing it up, because bundle, but since the goals is 'best overall' "under $250", it now goes for 130 euro.
It cost me a lot more (around 400 USD on sale) but they have superseded the product with a Pro version which costs similarly to what that used to.
VSL, the original Vienna Suite. I much prefer the reverb in it to the one in the Pro version. Just excellent.
Hybrid comes with some really great plates, it's mostly about rooms. Little rooms, medium rooms, huge rooms, hot rooms, cool rooms. There's a good reverse kind of a deal in it too.
Usually eschew bringing it up, because bundle, but since the goals is 'best overall' "under $250", it now goes for 130 euro.
It cost me a lot more (around 400 USD on sale) but they have superseded the product with a Pro version which costs similarly to what that used to.
VSL, the original Vienna Suite. I much prefer the reverb in it to the one in the Pro version. Just excellent.
Hybrid comes with some really great plates, it's mostly about rooms. Little rooms, medium rooms, huge rooms, hot rooms, cool rooms. There's a good reverse kind of a deal in it too.
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
I was using Valhalla VV exclusively for few years.
On the one hand, it defo does the job, on the other hand I was thinking lately if it may be worth buying some other reverb, maybe with a bit cleaner tone and more "expensive" overall sound, for the lack of better word.
I basically need a general purpose mixing reverb which I could put on a send track and admix to leads, pads and stuff (this is how I prefer working with reverbs, not a fan of using separate reverbs on different tracks, unless some specific effect is required)
I do synthy stuff, mostly psytrance but lately also some downtempo/ambient breaks kind of stuff. I want a lush reverb making big, clean and bright halls but also capable of a more natural/subtle ambience.
Any reverbs I should consider first? Preferably below EUR 150 and ilok-free. Or do I just need to learn my VVV better?
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- KVRAF
- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Give ArtsAcoustic Reverb a go. I know, it's not actively maintained anymore, but, it really has "that" sound. If you know what I mean. I'm sure it would complement your music perfectly, as I really think it's THE reverb for electronic dance music (ugh). I mean, the better electronic dance music, not that stuff they sell you as "Trance" these days.
Not really helpful, but, I also think that Synapse's Obsession has a great onboard reverb (it's from Mirko Ruta). I really hope that it will be released standalone one day.
And, for a budget reverb, I can recommend NI's Raum. Unfortunately, (like all the good stuff) it's a CPU eater.
Not really helpful, but, I also think that Synapse's Obsession has a great onboard reverb (it's from Mirko Ruta). I really hope that it will be released standalone one day.
And, for a budget reverb, I can recommend NI's Raum. Unfortunately, (like all the good stuff) it's a CPU eater.
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
Cool, thanks! Yes, I think we are on the same page, sonicallychk071 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:09 am Give ArtsAcoustic Reverb a go. I know, it's not actively maintained anymore, but, it really has "that" sound. If you know what I mean. I'm sure it would complement your music perfectly, as I really think it's THE reverb for electronic dance music (ugh). I mean, the better electronic dance music, not that stuff they sell you as "Trance" these days.
Not really helpful, but, I also think that Synapse's Obsession has a great onboard reverb (it's from Mirko Ruta). I really hope that it will be released standalone one day.
And, for a budget reverb, I can recommend NI's Raum. Unfortunately, (like all the good stuff) it's a CPU eater.
I remember the Art Acoustic one from some old trance tutorials. I thought it was kinda no more relevant/bettered by something else but I will give it a go.
Parawave Rapid has great reverb which is available in the FX version, not sure if it's the same as Obsession reverb but it is also coded by Mirko Ruta. Actually it's a surprisingly good reverb for a synth ondoard effect, I do use it sometimes on leads, pads and stuff, not only with Rapid. Maybe I should try using it as a global send reverb.
I have Raum and it does sound nice but I think of it more as a "special effect" kind of thing, rather than bread and butter mixing reverb.
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- KVRAF
- 6458 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
Pro-R.recursive one wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:51 am
I basically need a general purpose mixing reverb which I could put on a send track and admix to leads, pads and stuff (this is how I prefer working with reverbs, not a fan of using separate reverbs on different tracks, unless some specific effect is required)
However for the same price you can do a lot of similar stuff with Valhalla Plate+Room+VVV.
The thing with Pro-R is that it just sinks into the mix, with as little work as possible
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
That's what I'm looking for, will give it a go.
With VVV it's often that I hear a reverb and it does sound nice but it's somewhat disconnected from the dry signal if that makes sense. That may be my lack of skills ofc.
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- Banned
- 4491 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK
Im still using Aether as well as VR , Raum is good for stuff too, nice to have a lot of choices.
But I used poor plate for years n years tbh
But I used poor plate for years n years tbh
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- KVRAF
- 6458 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
I don't think its lack of skill, I think VVV is an obvious reverb, and more often than not i use it as such, when i need a "this is a reverb!" sound and really shines at that, not "lets give some ambiance to make this less artificial".
Valhalla Room much less so, but i think Pro-R is more flexible than Room.
re: aether
it's probably still my favourite "acoustic room" reverb, but the lack of development and maintenance was too much for me so i sold it. I will very likely get it again if they ever make an M1 version and update interface to HiDPI/Retina. They haven't even fixed the preset sorting bug lingering since Mojave tho - so i'm not holding my breath.
It's also a f**king pain in the ass to set-up, it's not an easy reverb to configure, compared to i.e. ValhallRoom and esp. compared to Pro-R which is just tuned so well.
Valhalla Room much less so, but i think Pro-R is more flexible than Room.
re: aether
it's probably still my favourite "acoustic room" reverb, but the lack of development and maintenance was too much for me so i sold it. I will very likely get it again if they ever make an M1 version and update interface to HiDPI/Retina. They haven't even fixed the preset sorting bug lingering since Mojave tho - so i'm not holding my breath.
It's also a f**king pain in the ass to set-up, it's not an easy reverb to configure, compared to i.e. ValhallRoom and esp. compared to Pro-R which is just tuned so well.
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- KVRAF
- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I felt the same. I always think their reverbs sound exaggerated (I owned both VRoom and Vintage Verb). VRoom is super clean, almost unrealistically so, Vintag Verb is super chrous-y and modulated. They sound to me as if, instead of a tea spoon, they put a whole soup spoon of "extra sugar" on it. Never got the hype about their reverbs. To me, there's at least a dozen which sound better.recursive one wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:38 am With VVV it's often that I hear a reverb and it does sound nice but it's somewhat disconnected from the dry signal if that makes sense. That may be my lack of skills ofc.
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
Have to admit I like big and obvious reverbs but I realize they shouldn't be used on everything, even in trance or ambient
It's possible to make VVV less obvious by tweaking some settings inside, equalizing pre and/or post reverb (another reason to use it as a send), carefully setting the send levels etc but probably I could just get another reverb more inclined to natural/subtle ambiences
Maybe if I have VV doing the "big" stuff, Room will suffice for the subtler reverbs, but I'll also try Pro-R and Art Acoutsic.
Thanks for the replies guys!
It's possible to make VVV less obvious by tweaking some settings inside, equalizing pre and/or post reverb (another reason to use it as a send), carefully setting the send levels etc but probably I could just get another reverb more inclined to natural/subtle ambiences
Maybe if I have VV doing the "big" stuff, Room will suffice for the subtler reverbs, but I'll also try Pro-R and Art Acoutsic.
Thanks for the replies guys!
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