Softube Model 84 (Juno 106)

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11573 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Tue May 04, 2021 8:43 pm

rezoneight wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 6:48 am
Subsequent 37 sounds different than the Mini and their other gear. But the information I was sharing came from the Moog Music forums over the last decade (first in regards to the Voyager).
I dunno, my bandmate has one and it sounds just like a Moog to me - huge oscillators, shit filter. I sure as hell wouldn't swap my Uno Pro for it, probably not even my original Uno.
trusampler wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 9:10 am
Does Softube vsti not allow for program changes / assign midi controllers to change patches? Pretty basic design if so,I'm wondering how guys would perform live with this synth,without program changes.
You still have to have your computer running, so you'd just change it in your DAW.
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KVRian
520 posts since 18 Feb, 2004

Post Wed May 05, 2021 4:54 am

BONES wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 8:43 pm
rezoneight wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 6:48 am
Subsequent 37 sounds different than the Mini and their other gear. But the information I was sharing came from the Moog Music forums over the last decade (first in regards to the Voyager).
I dunno, my bandmate has one and it sounds just like a Moog to me - huge oscillators, shit filter. I sure as hell wouldn't swap my Uno Pro for it, probably not even my original Uno.
Yeah we know bud, you hate the Moog filter ;) Yeah the Sub37 sounds like a Moog, that's one of the reasons I bought it. But it still sounds different from their other gear.

Don't know anything about the original Uno but the new one sounds bad ass. The desktop version is tempting. But this is a 106 thread.

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11573 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Wed May 05, 2021 5:21 am

Well, in that case, I'd definitely take the Subsequent 37 over any Juno.
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KVRian
1352 posts since 2 Jul, 2007

Post Sun May 09, 2021 2:45 pm

This emulation is the closest I've heard in software, and sounds great,in combination with my OB-6. Both sound really vintage. Thanks Matt Johnson for the presets,instant buy! Check out the JP3O Patches for this as well!
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KVRist
190 posts since 30 Jun, 2016 from USA

Post Mon May 10, 2021 9:21 am

ghettosynth wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 8:43 am
My demo is running out, the GAS has subsided. No filter FM input on the filter module is weak sauce.
Something about Softube really bothers me as a company. They are like the kings of authenticity in lieu of excitement. No doubt the Model 84 is as close as we can get to a Juno-106 without spending $3k, but that's about where it ends. I am still on the fence with this VST.

Also, as a sidenote, Softube should include, as a package deal, the Juno chorus as a standalone effect VST as well.
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KVRAF
32996 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from another dimension

Post Mon May 10, 2021 2:31 pm

Something about Softube customers really bothers me.
Hi-de-Hi!

KVRAF
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Post Mon May 10, 2021 2:36 pm

Aloysius wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 2:31 pm
Something about Softube customers really bothers me.
😂

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KVRAF
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Post Mon May 10, 2021 2:41 pm

:D
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KVRian
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Post Mon May 10, 2021 4:30 pm

2:43AM wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 9:21 am
ghettosynth wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 8:43 am
My demo is running out, the GAS has subsided. No filter FM input on the filter module is weak sauce.
Something about Softube really bothers me as a company. They are like the kings of authenticity in lieu of excitement. No doubt the Model 84 is as close as we can get to a Juno-106 without spending $3k, but that's about where it ends. I am still on the fence with this VST.
Have to be honest, this doesn’t really make much sense. It sounds like a $3k synth and costs $100. Seems like a win to me.

KVRAF
12803 posts since 13 Oct, 2009

Post Mon May 10, 2021 6:20 pm

stash98 wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 4:30 pm
2:43AM wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 9:21 am
ghettosynth wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 8:43 am
My demo is running out, the GAS has subsided. No filter FM input on the filter module is weak sauce.
Something about Softube really bothers me as a company. They are like the kings of authenticity in lieu of excitement. No doubt the Model 84 is as close as we can get to a Juno-106 without spending $3k, but that's about where it ends. I am still on the fence with this VST.
Have to be honest, this doesn’t really make much sense. It sounds like a $3k synth and costs $100. Seems like a win to me.
Blasphemous I know, but, the Juno 106 is only a $3k synth because FOMO.

KVRer
24 posts since 21 Jun, 2013

Post Mon May 10, 2021 7:26 pm

stash98 wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 4:30 pm
Have to be honest, this doesn’t really make much sense. It sounds like a $3k synth and costs $100. Seems like a win to me.
I agree that it sounds just like a Juno 106. If they go for $3k these days, that's wild, imo. I don't own any hardware Junos anymore, but I paid about $200 for my first one a long, long time ago.

Regardless of what they cost these days, this plugin in great in my opinion.

KVRist
260 posts since 14 Oct, 2018

Post Tue May 11, 2021 5:00 am

stash98 wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 4:30 pm
2:43AM wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 9:21 am
ghettosynth wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 8:43 am
My demo is running out, the GAS has subsided. No filter FM input on the filter module is weak sauce.
Something about Softube really bothers me as a company. They are like the kings of authenticity in lieu of excitement. No doubt the Model 84 is as close as we can get to a Juno-106 without spending $3k, but that's about where it ends. I am still on the fence with this VST.
Have to be honest, this doesn’t really make much sense. It sounds like a $3k synth and costs $100. Seems like a win to me.
$79 if you add the other coupon code. That was the clincher for me.

KVRist
345 posts since 7 Sep, 2012

Post Tue May 11, 2021 5:20 am

the fact the there is no fx version (there was for Model 72), and avoiding adding a 2nd envelope or similar basic features, shows that softube is trying to push people to use it within modular. There it will go from being an extremely limited (though sounding great) emulation, to a very flexible configuration where everything is possible and then you'd also be able to use the various components for fx.

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11573 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Wed May 12, 2021 7:31 pm

All well and good, except I'm not sure any of the individual components are worth writing home about. The magic seems to me to be in the fact that the Juno 106 is more than the sum of its parts. Yes, an extra envelope would be handy but since I realised I can just gate the VCA, it doesn't worry me too much any more. But I could never imagine wanting to use just the osc or just the filter from a synth like this, they are way too generic, I think.
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KVRist
56 posts since 29 Oct, 2018

Post Wed May 12, 2021 7:38 pm

Of the extra features, a second envelope should have been the first thing put in it. The sound is incredible, but both Arturia and Roland Cloud provided an extra envelope which can be used to great effect. Makes it a much more versatile synth and you can still switch it out if you want it to be just like the original.

The Softube is the closest sounding to my original. Just wish it gave me some features the original didn't have (and of course the aftertouch they provided is appreciated).

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