I thought I heard Tibetan throat singing at one point--cool where Timeless can take you.Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:28 pm Processing a few piano notes with a custom preset in Timeless 3 which uses pitch shifting and filtering, tweaking things on the fly.
https://youtu.be/oSeaHqpkglk
Fabfilter announce TIMELESS 3 !!!!!!!
- KVRAF
- 3538 posts since 12 Jan, 2019
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- KVRAF
- 1525 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
yes: modulation!
just started to play with the demo too. Very early initial impressions so far: very nice modern digital sound, but as i'm still trying to figure very simple things out that were piss easy to do in T2 but seemingly can't find them in T3 like the “offset dots“ around the delay time knob that seem to be absent somehow and i can't seem to find any mouse modifiers nor clicks to manage this in an efficient way yet.
Of course i can manually enter the % value per text input, but this seriously can't be the only way?
Funnily, these dots are still present for the LFO offset
just started to play with the demo too. Very early initial impressions so far: very nice modern digital sound, but as i'm still trying to figure very simple things out that were piss easy to do in T2 but seemingly can't find them in T3 like the “offset dots“ around the delay time knob that seem to be absent somehow and i can't seem to find any mouse modifiers nor clicks to manage this in an efficient way yet.
Of course i can manually enter the % value per text input, but this seriously can't be the only way?
Funnily, these dots are still present for the LFO offset
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- KVRAF
- 10361 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Amen! I find myself missing those dots too.FapFilter wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 5:54 pm yes: modulation!
just started to play with the demo too. Very early initial impressions so far: very nice modern digital sound, but as i'm still trying to figure very simple things out that were piss easy to do in T2 but seemingly can't find them in T3 like the “offset dots“ around the delay time knob that seem to be absent somehow and i can't seem to find any mouse modifiers nor clicks to manage this in an efficient way yet.
Of course i can manually enter the % value per text input, but this seriously can't be the only way?
Funnily, these dots are still present for the LFO offset
Though I have gotten used to typing either 'd' or 't' in the tiny text fields but the dots would definitely be quicker when I'm lazy and just using the mouse.
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 12 May, 2021
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- KVRist
- 314 posts since 20 Feb, 2005
It's a great improvement on v2!
There are many creative users for the modulation.
Here's a quick tip for "unobtrusive" delay that sits easily in the mix
I sometimes put a transient designer ahead of reverbs and delays to soften the effect when I want a bit of room/space for the sound that does not clutter up the mix too much.
With Timeless 3 you can do this without using an extra plugin by using a a triggered short envelope to diminish the input volume. Neat!
There are many creative users for the modulation.
Here's a quick tip for "unobtrusive" delay that sits easily in the mix
I sometimes put a transient designer ahead of reverbs and delays to soften the effect when I want a bit of room/space for the sound that does not clutter up the mix too much.
With Timeless 3 you can do this without using an extra plugin by using a a triggered short envelope to diminish the input volume. Neat!
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- KVRAF
- 5506 posts since 23 Aug, 2014 from Boston/Cambridge
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- KVRist
- 323 posts since 9 Oct, 2020
If anyone uses UVI Relayer, which seems to be a similarly-competent delay plugin in the "do everything and do it great" realm, how do you find it to be different? Timeless looks and sounds amazing, UVI Relayer seems like it can do... pretty much the same things and maybe more but with probably a bit more tedious a workflow?
And then there's MTurboReverb's early reflections section which can function as a delay and comes with the added bonus of one of the things I most want to do with a delay plugin, which is messing around with early reflections. And has IR-analysis, but otherwise probably the most eye-watering workflow.
And then there's MTurboReverb's early reflections section which can function as a delay and comes with the added bonus of one of the things I most want to do with a delay plugin, which is messing around with early reflections. And has IR-analysis, but otherwise probably the most eye-watering workflow.
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- KVRAF
- 16151 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Relayer is great but doesn't have pitch shifting and only 2 FX modules.E_Anderson wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:19 am If anyone uses UVI Relayer, which seems to be a similarly-competent delay plugin in the "do everything and do it great" realm, how do you find it to be different? Timeless looks and sounds amazing, UVI Relayer seems like it can do... pretty much the same things and maybe more but with probably a bit more tedious a workflow?
And then there's MTurboReverb's early reflections section which can function as a delay and comes with the added bonus of one of the things I most want to do with a delay plugin, which is messing around with early reflections. And has IR-analysis, but otherwise probably the most eye-watering workflow.
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- KVRist
- 323 posts since 9 Oct, 2020
Thanks, Simon and jonalyn. That pretty much seals the deal for me on Timeless vs. Relayer, then. I’m already impressed with how easy Timeless looks to use and how good those effects sound... If there’s no way to adjust which tap starts the next feedback cycle like there is in Relayer, one could just throw on a second delaySampleconstruct wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:25 am Relayer is great but doesn't have pitch shifting and only 2 FX modules.
- KVRian
- 1172 posts since 25 Jan, 2017
It's actually very easy to adjust the "taps cycle" for level/timing/panning, possibly easier than Relayer.E_Anderson wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 10:09 amThanks, Simon and jonalyn. That pretty much seals the deal for me on Timeless vs. Relayer, then. I’m already impressed with how easy Timeless looks to use and how good those effects sound... If there’s no way to adjust which tap starts the next feedback cycle like there is in Relayer, one could just throw on a second delaySampleconstruct wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:25 am Relayer is great but doesn't have pitch shifting and only 2 FX modules.
On the other hand, Timeless seems to support up to 16 taps, whereas Relayer goes up to 32 and seems better suited/organized to manage higher tap counts, like above 10, at least in my opinion...
I'ts also not so easy (or maybe even possible, I haven't tried) to set an effect amount to the individual taps, as it's easily done in Relayer, which also comes with some effects not available in Timeless.
I already have/love Relayer and I downloaded the Timeless demo just out of boredom and pretty much zero expectations, but it only took me a few minutes with an initialized preset to get very impressed by how nice it is to tweak for experimental stuff.
The way you can set filter in the feedback loop (in Pro-Q style) in all kinds of shapes is a literal joy to use.
At this point I'm sure I'll buy it but I'm really not in a hurry.
I feel like neither replaces the other one. They have different functions and fundamentally different workflows which are naturally going to inspire and provide significantly different results.
And to me it's pretty much all that matters (aside from meeting certain sound quality standards).
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- KVRAF
- 6462 posts since 17 Dec, 2009