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KVRAF
9393 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Tue May 11, 2021 6:30 am

good news, it works (as does the blue cat patchwrok wrapper)

thanks for the help :tu:

KVRist
40 posts since 28 Nov, 2020

Post Sat May 15, 2021 7:15 am

I prefer to use KushView Element for patching up VSTs inside a VST, because I got it for 2$.
More tools are always better, but I am semi-broke and don't really need the functionally...

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KVRist
210 posts since 9 Mar, 2017

Post Sat May 15, 2021 11:04 am

Q9000 wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 7:15 am
I prefer to use KushView Element for patching up VSTs inside a VST, because I got it for 2$.
More tools are always better, but I am semi-broke and don't really need the functionally...
If all you need is a patching utility, Element is a great choice, as is Blue Cat's Patchwork. Element developer Mike Fisher is a great guy who helped me get our AAX version going.

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286 posts since 30 Nov, 2007

Post Sat May 15, 2021 11:24 am

UNIFY: 18 Features that Make It SüperCool!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHhaOVtMCng

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KVRAF
6418 posts since 30 Apr, 2019

Post Mon May 17, 2021 9:32 am

Not sure if this is a Unify 'everywhere' thing or not, but in Reaper on Windows when I have a latch in place on a MIDI effect layer on an instrument and then bring in a new instrument that I want to use the same MIDI effect layer, as soon as I click on the second instrument's MIDI source selector to select M1 as the source (for example) the currently latched note dies.
Is there an option somewhere to let a latched note persist even when changing other instruments' MIDI sources? I like to use latched drum grooves, bass sequences and drones and this seems to kill the vibe.

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KVRist
210 posts since 9 Mar, 2017

Post Thu May 20, 2021 2:14 am

WatchTheGuitar wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 9:32 am
Not sure if this is a Unify 'everywhere' thing or not, but in Reaper on Windows when I have a latch in place on a MIDI effect layer on an instrument and then bring in a new instrument that I want to use the same MIDI effect layer, as soon as I click on the second instrument's MIDI source selector to select M1 as the source (for example) the currently latched note dies.
Is there an option somewhere to let a latched note persist even when changing other instruments' MIDI sources? I like to use latched drum grooves, bass sequences and drones and this seems to kill the vibe.
No, there's no such option at the moment. It would be a tricky thing to implement, because Unify would have to send MIDI note-on events to any newly-added INST layers listening to the latched MIDI layer, and note-offs to any INST layers you might disconnect. I'll think about it.

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KVRAF
6418 posts since 30 Apr, 2019

Post Thu May 20, 2021 2:35 am

getdunne wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 2:14 am
WatchTheGuitar wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 9:32 am
Not sure if this is a Unify 'everywhere' thing or not, but in Reaper on Windows when I have a latch in place on a MIDI effect layer on an instrument and then bring in a new instrument that I want to use the same MIDI effect layer, as soon as I click on the second instrument's MIDI source selector to select M1 as the source (for example) the currently latched note dies.
Is there an option somewhere to let a latched note persist even when changing other instruments' MIDI sources? I like to use latched drum grooves, bass sequences and drones and this seems to kill the vibe.
No, there's no such option at the moment. It would be a tricky thing to implement, because Unify would have to send MIDI note-on events to any newly-added INST layers listening to the latched MIDI layer, and note-offs to any INST layers you might disconnect. I'll think about it.
Cheers Shane, can workaround to an extent by preparing the layers I want to work with, but the issue is more when I use scale/key MIDI FX as they won't get applied to any incoming new layers unless I'm happy to lose the latch.
I'm lazy so only taught myself how to play in C and then transpose to whichever key/scale I'm after :)

KVRian
1356 posts since 2 Jul, 2007

Post Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:00 am

Is there more news on incorporating our hardware synths in Unify?
I'm really interested in someone finally creating a plugin that can finally do this in a good way, and hoping it's Unify..
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Synths: Sequential Prophet 10|OB-6/Deepmind 12/Virus TI2 61/Waldorf Blofeld/Yamaha Motif XS7/Akai MPC X

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KVRist
210 posts since 9 Mar, 2017

Post Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:39 pm

trusampler wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:00 am
Is there more news on incorporating our hardware synths in Unify?
I'm really interested in someone finally creating a plugin that can finally do this in a good way, and hoping it's Unify..
No news, but this is definitely on our to-do list. I have prototyped a number of useful techniques, so it's possible, but there is much work to be done.

KVRian
1356 posts since 2 Jul, 2007

Post Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:40 pm

Sounds great thnx Shane
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KVRAF
5726 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:51 pm

trusampler wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:00 am
Is there more news on incorporating our hardware synths in Unify?
I'm really interested in someone finally creating a plugin that can finally do this in a good way, and hoping it's Unify..
Like Omnisphere? I wish Unify could do that also.

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KVRist
210 posts since 9 Mar, 2017

Post Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:07 am

Examigan wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:51 pm
trusampler wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:00 am
Is there more news on incorporating our hardware synths in Unify?
I'm really interested in someone finally creating a plugin that can finally do this in a good way, and hoping it's Unify..
Like Omnisphere? I wish Unify could do that also.
I'm not sure what you mean. Omnisphere is a software synthesizer plug-in. It already works perfectly in Unify.

KVRAF
5726 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:25 am

getdunne wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:07 am
Examigan wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:51 pm
trusampler wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:00 am
Is there more news on incorporating our hardware synths in Unify?
I'm really interested in someone finally creating a plugin that can finally do this in a good way, and hoping it's Unify..
Like Omnisphere? I wish Unify could do that also.
I'm not sure what you mean. Omnisphere is a software synthesizer plug-in. It already works perfectly in Unify.
I know it is a synth plugin, but Omnisphere has hardware integration built-in, that’s all I meant.

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KVRist
210 posts since 9 Mar, 2017

Post Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:57 am

Examigan wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:25 am
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I know it is a synth plugin, but Omnisphere has hardware integration built-in, that’s all I meant.
Ah, I see what you mean.

Omnisphere's "hardware integration" is a combination of pre-mapped MIDI CC controls (so e.g. the "filter cutoff" knob on the hardware synth controls filter cutoff in Omnisphere) and newly-added samples to make Omnisphere itself sound very close to each supported device. The external hardware synth is only used as a controller for Omnisphere; whatever audio the hardware produces doesn't pass through Omnisphere.

These are very nice features for sure, but I think what the original poster was asking about was the ability to use external synths in Unify patches, i.e. Unify receives and processes the external synth's audio via an audio interface. I have prototyped this capability in Unify and it's quite useful.

@trusampler which type(s) of integration are you after?

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