Big commersial songs/producers using factory presets?

[dblock]

For some it's quicker to design sounds than to go through a browser of presets but that assumes you already know what you're looking for. For me, when I'm composing a cue, I often don't know what I want until I run across it and I can scroll through a lot more sounds much quicker and find what I'm looking for before I could ever scratch-build enough sounds to choose from not really knowing what I want first.

[e@rs]

This Youtube video identifies it as "B00: Space Adventure", so the first sound in the second bank I guess. The direct comparison can be heard at 5:09.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xmz-KTA-b0

Thanx, I had a good laugh watching this.

[Passing Bye]

For some it's quicker to design sounds than to go through a browser of presets but that assumes you already know what you're looking for. For me, when I'm composing a cue, I often don't know what I want until I run across it and I can scroll through a lot more sounds much quicker and find what I'm looking for before I could ever scratch-build enough sounds to choose from not really knowing what I want first.

Than there's a thing where you already browsed all the presets you got, made favorites and are familiar with most of them and know what you are looking for, so from there can work faster towards end goal.

[dblock]

For some it's quicker to design sounds than to go through a browser of presets but that assumes you already know what you're looking for. For me, when I'm composing a cue, I often don't know what I want until I run across it and I can scroll through a lot more sounds much quicker and find what I'm looking for before I could ever scratch-build enough sounds to choose from not really knowing what I want first.

Than there's a thing where you already browsed all the presets you got, made favorites and are familiar with most of them and know what you are looking for, so from there can work faster towards end goal.

I see your point but for me, just my Omnisphere,UVI Vintage Vault3,Synth Anthology 3 and Predator2 and the other synths is WAY over 100,000 presets so browsing all the presets I've got isn't a thing.I always find something I can use. I still find sounds I've had for years and never heard.While I was never interested in sound design,I like sound designers because they come up with all those presets that work for me.

[Passing Bye]

For some it's quicker to design sounds than to go through a browser of presets but that assumes you already know what you're looking for. For me, when I'm composing a cue, I often don't know what I want until I run across it and I can scroll through a lot more sounds much quicker and find what I'm looking for before I could ever scratch-build enough sounds to choose from not really knowing what I want first.

Than there's a thing where you already browsed all the presets you got, made favorites and are familiar with most of them and know what you are looking for, so from there can work faster towards end goal.

I see your point but for me, just my Omnisphere,UVI Vintage Vault3,Synth Anthology 3 and Predator2 and the other synths is WAY over 100,000 presets so browsing all the presets I've got isn't a thing.I always find something I can use. I still find sounds I've had for years and never heard.While I was never interested in sound design,I like sound designers because they come up with all those presets that work for me.

Wow, that's quite a lot, understand, I was briefly into sound design, but it's not my forte in the end of the day, feel much more rewarded to just use great sounds from great sound designers and focus purely on music, I tweak them here and there and it's not uncommon for me to actually program something that is basic enough tho.

Guess my mindset comes from the time when I was working with music full time, sometimes I just didn't had time to waste on sound design and too much preset browsing, would have people working in the same room with me, so I decided to limit myself to few tools and learn them inside out, would spend time to organize presets for those by categories and sometimes even sub categories, which was so tedious, but rewarding in the end, because I could find and call up sounds very quickly, sessions went very smoothly because of it and everyone was happy... never left that mindset and way of working even these days when I'm hobbyist and mainly work on music for my own pleasure, have few tools which I know very well and when I sit down to make music purely focusing on creating and conveying emotions... but also dig to explore different patches which inspire me to make whole pieces very often, especially when you get new sound bank.

[IrionDaRonin]

As an example, 4 months ago, i was listening my favourite music band in Youtube, The Prodigy.
In the track Wild Frontiers, you can listen a preset from Sylenth1 called "ARP Firefly" at the beginning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVV06jTYjeY



https://www.dropbox.com/s/4p42a7z1rdeof ... irefly.mp3 (I think you have to open the link in new tab, audio streaming not working)

Have a good day

[dblock]

For some it's quicker to design sounds than to go through a browser of presets but that assumes you already know what you're looking for. For me, when I'm composing a cue, I often don't know what I want until I run across it and I can scroll through a lot more sounds much quicker and find what I'm looking for before I could ever scratch-build enough sounds to choose from not really knowing what I want first.

Than there's a thing where you already browsed all the presets you got, made favorites and are familiar with most of them and know what you are looking for, so from there can work faster towards end goal.

I see your point but for me, just my Omnisphere,UVI Vintage Vault3,Synth Anthology 3 and Predator2 and the other synths is WAY over 100,000 presets so browsing all the presets I've got isn't a thing.I always find something I can use. I still find sounds I've had for years and never heard.While I was never interested in sound design,I like sound designers because they come up with all those presets that work for me.

Wow, that's quite a lot, understand, I was briefly into sound design, but it's not my forte in the end of the day, feel much more rewarded to just use great sounds from great sound designers and focus purely on music, I tweak them here and there and it's not uncommon for me to actually program something that is basic enough tho.

Guess my mindset comes from the time when I was working with music full time, sometimes I just didn't had time to waste on sound design and too much preset browsing, would have people working in the same room with me, so I decided to limit myself to few tools and learn them inside out, would spend time to organize presets for those by categories and sometimes even sub categories, which was so tedious, but rewarding in the end, because I could find and call up sounds very quickly, sessions went very smoothly because of it and everyone was happy... never left that mindset and way of working even these days when I'm hobbyist and mainly work on music for my own pleasure, have few tools which I know very well and when I sit down to make music purely focusing on creating and conveying emotions... but also dig to explore different patches which inspire me to make whole pieces very often, especially when you get new sound bank.

What I realized is the time it takes to browse for presets on any given project never seems to affect the average time it takes for me to produce a cue so I don't really buy the idea that browsing presets is somehow a bottleneck. I always find something pretty quick.I never limited myself to learning a couple of synths well. I never learned ANY of them well. I would just buy synths based on the demo sounds, being easy on the eyes, word of mouth,whatever and that's what kept it fresh. I'll mess with some knobs and buttons if a patch is already in the ballpark to get it there but with so many presets I never feel I need to spend much time with any one of them to make it fit. If it doesn't work I'll move on.

[Passing Bye]

One thing I did notice is that the time it takes to browse for presets on any given project never seems to affect the average time it takes for me to produce a cue so I don't really buy the idea that browsing presets is somehow a bottleneck. I always find something pretty quick.

Yeah, me neither, whole "argument" is complete fallacy in first place, to perfect sound design on the level of some of those presets you don't need hours, you need years, but each to his own, we don't make same music and have same needs.

[Bartone]

Interesting comments and info! Thanks everyone for sharing.
This is good insight to see people have different approaches.

[Examigan]

I found preset in the D-50 plugin (it is called "Glorious") that sounds a lot like the synth sound in the Rush song "Lock and Key". It's not a "big" commercial song but the group had a large following. It's in the bank 'Beyond Fantasia-1' so I'm not sure when that one was created, but it's not in the original presets. But it sounds like that part in the song though.

[Examigan]

Here is the first section I was talking about. I used Syntronik Bully for the bass pedals that play along with the D-50 preset:
https://soundcloud.com/examigan/intro-of-rush-cover

[Passing Bye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsz0gGRWyvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z6peX7fZ5c

[Ploki]

Btw I highly doubt this thing can produce serious round robins, velocity layers and release pedal like a real piano, but since I forgot to mention ”you can’t sample your favourite piano” (because eh, some people enjoy using sounds they strongly dislike), no problem, try to prove me wrong just for fun.

real piano doesn't have round robins and velocity layers.
that's why Pianoteq -plays- way more like a real piano than any sampled piano does. It feels better.

[DJErmac]

Btw I highly doubt this thing can produce serious round robins, velocity layers and release pedal like a real piano, but since I forgot to mention ”you can’t sample your favourite piano” (because eh, some people enjoy using sounds they strongly dislike), no problem, try to prove me wrong just for fun.

real piano doesn't have round robins and velocity layers.
that's why Pianoteq -plays- way more like a real piano than any sampled piano does. It feels better.

The thread is about factory presets. Is a real piano a factory preset ? I’m talking about things that actally have factory presets.

[Dasheesh]

if you don't like synthesizers why the f**k are you playing with synthesizers? an oscillator and filter are not hard to understand. presets are not hard to make, and every ten year old is a savant in your world. smh

if you are programming, what you want is a sampler. if you are actually playing something, then you want a rompler. each has their place. you guys just dont give a shit, so i dont understand why you pick them up in the first place. makes no sense.