Smart EQ 3 is out !

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KVRAF
2291 posts since 1 Sep, 2016

Post Sun May 09, 2021 6:10 am

For people who invest in a plugin like this, how does it affect your use of more standard EQs? I guess you still need them for shelves/cuts etc or do you find you don't need them anymore?

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KVRist
199 posts since 11 Oct, 2012

Post Sun May 09, 2021 7:33 am

Foliasound wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 6:06 am
And music might be one day advertised and sold with taglines like: "mixed by human!".
But after the Butlerian jihad the tagline will be "mixed by mentat!"

KVRAF
1840 posts since 11 Aug, 2012 from omfr morf form romf frmo

Post Sun May 09, 2021 9:10 am

Vortifex wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 6:10 am
For people who invest in a plugin like this, how does it affect your use of more standard EQs? I guess you still need them for shelves/cuts etc or do you find you don't need them anymore?
Understand this is a time saver. It's an assistant that does the mundane mixing stuff but you bring it over the finish line. You can do the rest of the adjustments manually in the same plugin. Or another if that's your preference.

If you're doing processing before this, then sure, use whatever EQs you want. e.g., corrective bass shaping with Chop Shop or Voice of God/Bark of Dog can help anemic signals before SmartEQ does more broad work.

KVRist
31 posts since 29 Apr, 2020

Post Sun May 09, 2021 1:18 pm

metaside wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 7:33 am
Foliasound wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 6:06 am
And music might be one day advertised and sold with taglines like: "mixed by human!".
But after the Butlerian jihad the tagline will be "mixed by mentat!"
Whoaaah, a "Dune" fan here?! I've read the whole series three times in my life, man!!!

KVRian
972 posts since 30 Dec, 2005

Post Sun May 09, 2021 11:04 pm

Anyone know how long the intro sale will last?
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KVRian
720 posts since 14 Jul, 2018

Post Mon May 10, 2021 10:18 am

at boutique it says june 7th...

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KVRian
1044 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland

Post Sun May 16, 2021 3:41 am

Demoing this. I might be missing something, but why no automatic volume compensation ?

Some suggested eq curves drastically change the volume, and it gets worse when using group functions. So where's the volume control from within the group settings ?
More BPM please

KVRer
6 posts since 2 Mar, 2021

Post Mon May 17, 2021 7:11 am

dionenoid wrote:
Sun May 16, 2021 3:41 am
Demoing this. I might be missing something, but why no automatic volume compensation ?

Some suggested eq curves drastically change the volume, and it gets worse when using group functions. So where's the volume control from within the group settings ?
I've got the same question too

KVRAF
4089 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Mon May 17, 2021 7:35 am

yellowmix wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 9:10 am
Vortifex wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 6:10 am
For people who invest in a plugin like this, how does it affect your use of more standard EQs? I guess you still need them for shelves/cuts etc or do you find you don't need them anymore?
Understand this is a time saver. It's an assistant that does the mundane mixing stuff but you bring it over the finish line. You can do the rest of the adjustments manually in the same plugin. Or another if that's your preference.
Question is how is a static curve derived from a small portion of an audio better than i.e gullfoss or teote or similar plugs.
And is boosting really a part of mundane mixing? I dont think i ever boost to “clean and tidy” something.
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KVRian
1044 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland

Post Mon May 17, 2021 11:19 am

Yeah i'll pass on this update. The lack of automatic volume control is a huge fail imo.

Plus : no reference learning, not enough profiles, weird bypass behaviour (in Cubase), too much cpu useage in dynamic mode (compared to other such plug-ins) and some weird design choices (little knobs and such). Next to that i read some posts about it needing network availability, which you can't check because the demo version always needs internet.

This eq just ain't that "smart".
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More BPM please

KVRAF
5111 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Mon May 17, 2021 11:51 am

Well, I love this thing. It's kind of game changer for me as mixing non-nerd.
It cleans up nicely masking tracks.
For me it's pretty smart.
By the the way: you can dial in dynamic EQ behaviour...

KVRAF
1515 posts since 4 Jul, 2019

Post Mon May 17, 2021 1:43 pm

martinjuenke wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 11:51 am
Well, I love this thing. It's kind of game changer for me as mixing non-nerd.
It cleans up nicely masking tracks.
For me it's pretty smart.
By the the way: you can dial in dynamic EQ behaviour...
same

KVRAF
4089 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Tue May 18, 2021 2:42 am

martinjuenke wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 11:51 am
By the the way: you can dial in dynamic EQ behaviour...
I know, but it's still "dynamic" based on captured profile.

I tried it and i still think it doesn't bring that much to the table if you already have Gullfoss or TEOTE or similar. As far masking goes, i prefer to notch space manually when necessary than let an EQ wreak havoc on the signal.
As far as i learned when mixing, less actually is more. I find most of these tools try to do WAY too much with the signal.
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KVRAF
5111 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Tue May 18, 2021 4:15 am

Ploki wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 2:42 am
martinjuenke wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 11:51 am
By the the way: you can dial in dynamic EQ behaviour...
I know, but it's still "dynamic" based on captured profile.

I tried it and i still think it doesn't bring that much to the table if you already have Gullfoss or TEOTE or similar.
I already have Gullfoss as well and see both compliment each other nicely (Sonible on tracks and Gullfoss on Mixbuss). To overdo something is at the end the responsibility of the user, not a flaw of the tool (at least in my opinion). However, tastes differ obviously…

KVRAF
4089 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Tue May 18, 2021 4:26 am

martinjuenke wrote:
Tue May 18, 2021 4:15 am

I already have Gullfoss as well and see both compliment each other nicely (Sonible on tracks and Gullfoss on Mixbuss). To overdo something is at the end the responsibility of the user, not a flaw of the tool (at least in my opinion). However, tastes differ obviously…
It is, but smartly tuned parameters make better specific tools.
You can do basically ANYTHING with melda. But anything also means a lot of garbage, because they’re so open (still love ‘em tho)

I had the same quip with gullfoss. Stop fckin boosting, cut and clean and let me do the boosting. (Thats why i like soothe2)
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