Rendering Midi files to wav
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- KVRAF
- 25031 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
Dave,
This is easier than you think. Read what people are saying carefully. Tracktion is the answer to what you need. Think of it like this. Your audigy internal synth sounds is just that. Internal Synth. What you want to do is take what you have and port it out to different, better plugins. As mentioned, SFZ is a great soundfont player. What that means is that your audigy does the same exact thing. All you have to do is get the soundfonts you want. It's as easy as that. The setup with tracktion is that its modular. That means you can interchange literally hundreds of free instruments, effects and sound even better than what you are imagining right now. Take your time, and learn. The midi you speak of is simply notes on a scale, and different number values. On your audigy, it automatically takes the midi and interprets them into it's internal soundfont player. That's all it is. What you need to do is get SFZ and insert it into there, and im pretty sure you can extract the soundfonts from your audigy somehow, not sure about how but im sure you can. Once you have that, you will have even more flexibility than you ever can imagine.
trust me. I used to use a dos program called impulse tracker up until a few months ago and was NOT OPEN to change. Listen to us please, its only for the better.
ask more if you wish. You didn't buy the wrong program.
RonC
This is easier than you think. Read what people are saying carefully. Tracktion is the answer to what you need. Think of it like this. Your audigy internal synth sounds is just that. Internal Synth. What you want to do is take what you have and port it out to different, better plugins. As mentioned, SFZ is a great soundfont player. What that means is that your audigy does the same exact thing. All you have to do is get the soundfonts you want. It's as easy as that. The setup with tracktion is that its modular. That means you can interchange literally hundreds of free instruments, effects and sound even better than what you are imagining right now. Take your time, and learn. The midi you speak of is simply notes on a scale, and different number values. On your audigy, it automatically takes the midi and interprets them into it's internal soundfont player. That's all it is. What you need to do is get SFZ and insert it into there, and im pretty sure you can extract the soundfonts from your audigy somehow, not sure about how but im sure you can. Once you have that, you will have even more flexibility than you ever can imagine.
trust me. I used to use a dos program called impulse tracker up until a few months ago and was NOT OPEN to change. Listen to us please, its only for the better.
ask more if you wish. You didn't buy the wrong program.
RonC
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- KVRAF
- 6937 posts since 4 Jun, 2004 from Utrecht, Holland
Other option, not sure weather already mentioned in this needlessly long thread.
* Connect Line Out of the Audigy to Line In of the Audigy
* Make sure with the Audigy (or Windows) mixer that Line In is NOT played in Line Out, so to avoid a feedback loop
(there may be better ways to achieve this depending on capabilities of the soundcard)
* Temporarily mute the normal audio tracks.
* Hit the record button, so the Audigy's synth is recorded to a seperate audio track.
* Now mute the midi tracks and un-mute the audio tracks
* Render the complete results, presto!
* Connect Line Out of the Audigy to Line In of the Audigy
* Make sure with the Audigy (or Windows) mixer that Line In is NOT played in Line Out, so to avoid a feedback loop
(there may be better ways to achieve this depending on capabilities of the soundcard)
* Temporarily mute the normal audio tracks.
* Hit the record button, so the Audigy's synth is recorded to a seperate audio track.
* Now mute the midi tracks and un-mute the audio tracks
* Render the complete results, presto!
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- KVRAF
- 25031 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
I'm pretty sure they're stored as conventional soundfont2 under the path of the Audigy driver&toolsrpc9943 wrote: I'm pretty sure you can extract the soundfonts from your audigy somehow, not sure about how but im sure you can.
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- KVRist
- 360 posts since 27 Jul, 2004 from Cologne/Germany
page 2C00kie wrote:Other option, not sure weather already mentioned in this needlessly long thread.
* Connect Line Out of the Audigy to Line In of the Audigy
* Make sure with the Audigy (or Windows) mixer that Line In is NOT played in Line Out, so to avoid a feedback loop
(there may be better ways to achieve this depending on capabilities of the soundcard)
* Temporarily mute the normal audio tracks.
* Hit the record button, so the Audigy's synth is recorded to a seperate audio track.
* Now mute the midi tracks and un-mute the audio tracks
* Render the complete results, presto!
Regards,
Tommy
Some music here
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- KVRAF
- 1884 posts since 9 Feb, 2004 from Rochester, MN
Easier way using an Audigy:
Go into the Tracktion settings.
For Audio Input, enable "Mix (Pre-EQ) L + Mix (Pre-EQ) R".
In your project, drag that input to an unused track.
Turn the volume for that track all the way down. Mute doesn't do the same thing, so don't use it.
Hit record.
When the song is done playing, hit stop.
Now you've it recorded as an audio file. You can browse to the project folder and just use the wave file from there.
That's it. You're done.
I don't know why I bothered typing all this though, considering this guy's inability to comprehend the many other solutions to his problem.
Go into the Tracktion settings.
For Audio Input, enable "Mix (Pre-EQ) L + Mix (Pre-EQ) R".
In your project, drag that input to an unused track.
Turn the volume for that track all the way down. Mute doesn't do the same thing, so don't use it.
Hit record.
When the song is done playing, hit stop.
Now you've it recorded as an audio file. You can browse to the project folder and just use the wave file from there.
That's it. You're done.
I don't know why I bothered typing all this though, considering this guy's inability to comprehend the many other solutions to his problem.
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- KVRAF
- 1884 posts since 9 Feb, 2004 from Rochester, MN
Technically, I've got an Audigy 2. And who knows if Dave is even using the Creative ASIO drivers?
I was trying to avoid posting this method, because I was hoping he would learn something about the relationship between sound cards, MIDI, and VSTi, but that doesn't seem to be happening. I certainly can't think of a better analogy than the player piano.
I was trying to avoid posting this method, because I was hoping he would learn something about the relationship between sound cards, MIDI, and VSTi, but that doesn't seem to be happening. I certainly can't think of a better analogy than the player piano.
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- KVRAF
- 25031 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
same here...Warmonger wrote: I was trying to avoid posting this method, because I was hoping he would learn something about the relationship between sound cards, MIDI, and VSTi, but that doesn't seem to be happening.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Dave,
I'm going to compile some of what's already been said, just to put it in one post in clear steps. Not because I'm talking down to you, but because everybody learns differently and I suspect that simply following these directions might work for you:
1. Download and install SFZ from HERE
If you can't get it to appear in your list of filters, come back to us and we'll break that step down even further for you.
2. Download THIS, which is a soundfont called "Fluid" that does the same job as the one in your soundcard, except that it probably actually sounds BETTER! Extract it to somewhere easy to find, and navigate to its folder.
3. Load Tracktion and your project. Click on the filter icon in the top right and drag it down to the track with your strings on it. A menu will pop up with your list of installed filters. Locate "sfz" and select it.
4. By default, you'll be able to see sfz's GUI. If you click elsewhere and lose it, just click the filter that's now on your track and it'll reappear. You can press "lock" so that it doesn't lose focus if you want.
5. Press the button in your taskbar for the explorer folder where you've extracted the Fluid soundfont. Click and drag the fluid soundfont to the Tracktion button and wait for Tracktion to gain focus again (ie. don't let go yet!). Drag and Drop the fluid soundfont into the SFZ GUI, where it will instantly load. In the GUI, you will see a button for "bank" and one for "program", which is where you will find your strings patch.
Press play, and you're off to the races.
Even better, when you re-load your project (providing you've saved!!), it'll be there already and you won't have to go through those steps again. AND, it will now properly render and freeze.
If you feel like trying out other soundfonts to see if they do you any good, check Hammersound.net and browse around for all the cool sounds you'll be able to use now that you know how to add an SFZ filter to your MIDI tracks in order to make sound!
Greg
I'm going to compile some of what's already been said, just to put it in one post in clear steps. Not because I'm talking down to you, but because everybody learns differently and I suspect that simply following these directions might work for you:
1. Download and install SFZ from HERE
If you can't get it to appear in your list of filters, come back to us and we'll break that step down even further for you.
2. Download THIS, which is a soundfont called "Fluid" that does the same job as the one in your soundcard, except that it probably actually sounds BETTER! Extract it to somewhere easy to find, and navigate to its folder.
3. Load Tracktion and your project. Click on the filter icon in the top right and drag it down to the track with your strings on it. A menu will pop up with your list of installed filters. Locate "sfz" and select it.
4. By default, you'll be able to see sfz's GUI. If you click elsewhere and lose it, just click the filter that's now on your track and it'll reappear. You can press "lock" so that it doesn't lose focus if you want.
5. Press the button in your taskbar for the explorer folder where you've extracted the Fluid soundfont. Click and drag the fluid soundfont to the Tracktion button and wait for Tracktion to gain focus again (ie. don't let go yet!). Drag and Drop the fluid soundfont into the SFZ GUI, where it will instantly load. In the GUI, you will see a button for "bank" and one for "program", which is where you will find your strings patch.
Press play, and you're off to the races.
Even better, when you re-load your project (providing you've saved!!), it'll be there already and you won't have to go through those steps again. AND, it will now properly render and freeze.
If you feel like trying out other soundfonts to see if they do you any good, check Hammersound.net and browse around for all the cool sounds you'll be able to use now that you know how to add an SFZ filter to your MIDI tracks in order to make sound!
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
no, no, no it's like this:
1.get out of bed.
2.put on slippers.
3.light pipe.
4.take a walk.
5.light pipe.
6.go back to bed.
1.get out of bed.
2.put on slippers.
3.light pipe.
4.take a walk.
5.light pipe.
6.go back to bed.
