What's this sample called?

[juno987654321]

Found a good video describing the required processing here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7uHIy_Pwo9o

Not sure what this was supposed to mean. Didn't help with my question at all. I know what "chords" are if that was the kind cynical message again...

But 2 notes which are just transposed in octaves are still not "chords" as they typically play them on organs. Just as a sidenote...

[juno987654321]

How can I contact him?

leave a comment on the track asking him

... or simply leave the comment.

[vurt]

How can I contact him?

leave a comment on the track asking him

... or simply leave the comment.

yeah, but if you don't ask the question, he won't know what the comment means "i like that sound at..."

you gotta ask, otherwise, hell just say "thanks man!" or similar.

[juno987654321]

How can I contact him?

leave a comment on the track asking him

... or simply leave the comment.

yeah, but if you don't ask the question, he won't know what the comment means "i like that sound at..."

you gotta ask, otherwise, hell just say "thanks man!" or similar.

Hahaha! Vurt!
You're right. While I read AnX's comment again (because of you Vurt) I realized that he actually might have meant to help me this time. I first took it as one of those stupid nonsense comments again that don't make any sense and never help me to proceed in my commitments in the field of sound design. I just realized that you CAN actually contact the artist via soundcloud. I thought that this wasn't even possible. So now I sent him the question (though it's not sure if there will ever be an answer)...

I originally meant to express that you should generally leave cynical comments that don't help at all.
You know, I've just had enough of those on kvraudio somehow. If people don't know the answer or don't like the kind of music I like etc. etc., then they could just spare me with their comments...

It's all good. Thanks!

BTW: Those Italo disco sounds are just gorgeous!!!

[BertKoor]

Found a good video describing the required processing here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7uHIy_Pwo9o

Not sure what this was supposed to mean. Didn't help with my question at all.

You showed us an awful music video, so I showed you one as well. Did you notice what song was played on the organ? Have you ever been RickRolled? Well, now you have.

If a joke needs to be explained then the possibility exists it wasn't funny. Sorry about that.

[vurt]

How can I contact him?

leave a comment on the track asking him

... or simply leave the comment.

yeah, but if you don't ask the question, he won't know what the comment means "i like that sound at..."

you gotta ask, otherwise, hell just say "thanks man!" or similar.

Hahaha! Vurt!
You're right. While I read AnX's comment again (because of you Vurt) I realized that he actually might have meant to help me this time. I first took it as one of those stupid nonsense comments again that don't make any sense and never help me to proceed in my commitments in the field of sound design. I just realized that you CAN actually contact the artist via soundcloud. I thought that this wasn't even possible. So now I sent him the question (though it's not sure if there will ever be an answer)...

I originally meant to express that you should generally leave cynical comments that don't help at all.
You know, I've just had enough of those on kvraudio somehow. If people don't know the answer or don't like the kind of music I like etc. etc., then they could just spare me with their comments...

It's all good. Thanks!

BTW: Those Italo disco sounds are just gorgeous!!!

yup, occasionally, myself or anx may seem a little sarcastic/unhelpful, but i honestly think that's just a uk thing.
we do both try to help where we can, or like bert above, may have a bit of a joke!

please don't take it serious or as an attack, we're just old and set in our ways. we are both reasonably nice people (ive met anx a good few times, a few of them at parties at my own house) but we also like a laugh sometimes!!

hope the guy replies, but depending how many comments he gets, he may not see every one, or it may take time.

im actually enjoying all your questions btw, while i may not like all the sounds you are after, it's bringing out some good info for the many who will follow when youre the old one and me and anx are in old folks homes or dead

[juno987654321]

Thanks everybody and thanks in particular for all the clarifying explanations.

[juno987654321]

Arturia's CMI will work just fine with the "Orch2" preset, I've used UVI's Darklight IIx, but it's always the same sample, so it shouldn't matter where you take it from.
I added a short reverb, lots of it though, and set the Release time very short so the sample is cut off when I release the key - Then played D4+D5 in quick succession, "ba-dam", felt closer to what you posted. Then used a highpass filter to remove the low end, and a lowpass filter to remove the high end. Added generous amounts of resonance on the low pass to add that piercing frequency peak. No magic here, as you can tell, just basic adjustments to mimick the source.

Sorry I'll have to come back to this again.
Could you please post just the 2 sample sounds you started out with for D4 and D5?
It's the missing link still.
If you could just post those two unedited sounds?

I've just come back to sampling techniques and I found out that the orch2 samples for Arturia and Darklight IIx differ. I'd now like to reconstruct the sound myself as you did and figure out how to exactly do this. However, the Arturia/Darklight samples are not likely the same sounds: In Arturia every octave produces its very own different orchestra hit sounds (!). It's still very confusing to me. I also read that this sound changed a lot over time even if its name stayed the same which is most confusing, so it would be helpful if you could post the exact sounds you used...

[Viktor [TUC]]

Hi Juno,

very sorry, can't help with that, not sure what the legality would be if I posted a raw sample taken from a commercial product. I checked with the Arturia version (there the sound is called "Orch2") and as far as I can see it just uses one single sample, not several different ones. I compared Arturias version and UVIs version, and it sounds to me as though they used the identical source to sample from, I mean the same kind of machine with the same original sample loaded. Arturia and UVI might have used slightly different post processing on the sample (EQing?), not sure.

[jancivil]

"Have you ever been RickRolled? Well, now you have"
Have you ever been experienced? Well I have. Not necessarily stoned, but beautiful

in the spirit of never explain a joke:

[jancivil]

that sounds so bad, LOL
remember when you had to about be a millionaire to own that thing?
sounds at least as bad as our Mirage back in 85-87

[Lotuz2019]

that sounds so bad, LOL

Bad meaning good.

[jancivil]

no
that is quite an approprate use of it tho. highly amusing

8-bit rules ok. for half a qazillion dollars it may even have been 12-bit

[juno987654321]

Hi Juno,

very sorry, can't help with that, not sure what the legality would be if I posted a raw sample taken from a commercial product. I checked with the Arturia version (there the sound is called "Orch2") and as far as I can see it just uses one single sample, not several different ones. I compared Arturias version and UVIs version, and it sounds to me as though they used the identical source to sample from, I mean the same kind of machine with the same original sample loaded. Arturia and UVI might have used slightly different post processing on the sample (EQing?), not sure.

OK, thanks! But I can figure it out with the Arturia sample then. No need for UVI's version then. I've got your reference sound now.
It's from CMI V - brass and winds - orch 2, right? So there we have a common basis.
I confused it with something else, an sf2 orch hit sample I had. I was confused. But now I have the basic reference sound.

So next I'd like to know about the lenghts of the sounds. Did you edit those?
I believe that when I play the individual keys I can hear that there is really only one sample "root key sound" that they used and that's C4 in my opinion. All the other notes seem longer/stretched below the original C4 or shorter and thus naturally more high pitched above C4? So all notes except for C4 are the "unnatural" ones who are just time stretched to get some other pitches and they have not been adapted properly in lenghts then (in a way). What's your opinion on it? Could we say it like that?

Now you told me you layered D4 and D5 and that's very interesting to me. So did you make both sounds as long as C4 or as long as D4? Or did you take the length of the sample in the song as your reference lenghth? Or did you not choose any reference length at all and just leave both sounds as they are in pitch and lenghths and just mix them together? You see it's all in the details I need to know if I'd like to understand such an editing process as a beginner. Sorry I'm so insistent as a beginner who tries to understand something about sampling techniques. But you managed to reconstruct the sound very well and I'd like to understand how exactly. It's a real good example.

[juno987654321]

Yes, jancivil, those were all the billionaire sounds. Other people who were not as rich as Michael Jackson's record labels had been excluded from the sounds for a long time. But now you can find free orchestra hit samples though you see it's still difficult to have a common sound sample basis for the sake of education when everything is almost always being commercialized and seized. But it is still possible...