Finally joining in on some WUP hate.

[elxsound]

I still find it ironic that you always post in defence of Waves/PA/whatever, then you came into Timeless3 thread, not even a -general- fabfilter thread, a new plugin launch thread, just to say this:

Ive never been tempted to buy anything from FF. Very pricey in my opinion and I have more than enough alternatives that do just as good a job for a fraction of the cost

On the other hand you moan about people who open a venting thread about what's pretty universally accepted as dodgy practices...
Is the irony of this really lost on you?

I’ve always been highly suspicious of these responses.

[chk071]

I don't hate WUP. But then, I never WUP'd anything. Why would I?

Poor Mac users.

[elxsound]

I don't hate WUP. But then, I never WUP'd anything. Why would I?

Poor Mac users.

If only they’d change the name to WAP, this thread would be more entertaining.

[ramseysounds]

I still find it ironic that you always post in defence of Waves/PA/whatever, then you came into Timeless3 thread, not even a -general- fabfilter thread, a new plugin launch thread, just to say this:

Ive never been tempted to buy anything from FF. Very pricey in my opinion and I have more than enough alternatives that do just as good a job for a fraction of the cost

On the other hand you moan about people who open a venting thread about what's pretty universally accepted as dodgy practices...
Is the irony of this really lost on you?

there he is, my stalker. Trawling through past posts to try and score points and look big
The fabfilter post is completely different to the continual wup venting threads. ‘Universally accepted’

[excuse me please]

Okay, so you guys don't like wuppies???

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gYMLl3UDhEw

[ghettosynth]

Okay, so you guys don't like wuppies???

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gYMLl3UDhEw

Well, they're better than Bronies.

[ferez21]

Funny how things turned out, I'm on the verge of getting Waves on my blacklist if their support don't solve my issue:
So it happened that I switched between 2 computers this year, I initially bought a laptop, sold it, then bought a desktop which I'm using now. Initially, I activated the Gold bundle on the laptop that I had using their "once a year recovery" option, since the Gold bundle was already activated on another laptop that I've owned 6 years ago and sold long time ago.

Apparently, I cannot activate the plugins again this year because I can only "recover" their license once every year - now this is some high level bull$hit! I've contacted their support, and if they don't get me through it without extorting me to pay for WUP, I'll be so angry that I'm already having thoughts of taking a legal action.

I'm still giving them the benefit of the doubt until tomorrow when I hopefully get a response with a solution from their support. Until now I had zero issues with them, and then suddenly I have the biggest issue imaginable.

[0degree]

Haha, that's funny - at the time I had no idea that WUP actually exists because I had different experience with other devs but hey I've learnt from my mistake

So basically you blame Waves because you naively believed that every vendor would allow free license transfer and then had to find out that this is not the case.

I already wrote what I blame them for and why I don't like WUP so there's no need to repeat myself.

I'm still giving them the benefit of the doubt until tomorrow when I hopefully get a response with a solution from their support. Until now I had zero issues with them, and then suddenly I have the biggest issue imaginable.

I had a similar issue and this is a warning for users which have some virtual network interfaces like I had on my laptop at the time. So I had a VPN client which creates those interfaces and Waves Central v.11 one day decided that my licenses stored on the hard drive are "disconnected" because apparently they compute the computer fingerprint also based on network interfaces and somehow their order was changed. Unfortunately I couldn't "recover" them because I did this during that year so I called support and they actually helped me so I hope your issue will be resolved too.
Licenses tied to a single computer without a way to recover them as needed is another ridiculous issue, but that's a different conversation

[MogwaiBoy]

I've transferred my licenses to USB and leave the USB plugged into the back of the desktop PC. I had a laptop before that completely died and my Waves licenses were the only ones that were real trouble to recover. Never again - mostly because I avoid using Waves products now where possible.

That "once per year" license recovery thing is such BS.

It's all designed to get you to "WUP" which just lapses again, and as a customer you never really feel like you truly own their plugins - they own you.

Charging for basic customer service is actually illegal in many countries.

[jens]

I'm still giving them the benefit of the doubt until tomorrow when I hopefully get a response with a solution from their support. Until now I had zero issues with them, and then suddenly I have the biggest issue imaginable.

I don't assume that they will help you out - but you can do it yourself. I explained in another Waves thread how to do this.

Let me see if I can dig it up.

Yes, some other vendors let you freely remove and add machines, which is of course much more preferable.

Too strong copy-protection in general is punishing the honest customers, which is a crappy thing to do.

[jens]

Here's the thread on how to manually switch machines with Waves:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=533824&p=8098096#p8098096

[ferez21]

Here's the thread on how to manually switch machines with Waves:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=533824&p=8098096#p8098096

Thanks for the effort,
I have a spare USB network adapter, so basically i need to chnage its MAC address to match my old laptop's network card's MAC, and then when i log into Central the licenses will be available for me to move them to the cloud?

[jens]

Yes, that's basically how to do this - but you only need the USB network adapter if you can't change the MAC adress of the built-in one for some reason. And in that case you may have to (temporarily) disable it to make Central use the USB one instead.

I had to do this a couple of times and ocassionally it can be a bit of a hassle, but in the end I always managed to get my licenses back.

[vurt]

Okay, so you guys don't like wuppies???

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gYMLl3UDhEw

Well, they're better than Bronies.

not all bronies are like that!
some of them will kick your arse if you don't shut up

as a bronie by proxy (they're for my granddaughter) i do find the whole thing quite weird.
however there are also adult females who go to these events (over here anyway) and ive had some fun times

[ferez21]

Anyone up for a class action lawsuit?