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antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Thu May 27, 2021 12:22 pm

One of the headline features of just announced Bitwig Studio v4 is import of - some - data from Live and FL studio projects.

More specifically (for Live):

What's Imported
Main arrangement including clips, tempo, time signatures, cue markers, and automation.

Clip launcher scenes including names, colors, and clips (along with applicable playback parameters).

Audio, MIDI, and group tracks (and their contained tracks), along with their data and output routings.

VST/VST3 plug-ins, along with settings and any automation.

MIDI clip features (such as MPE, note chance, and velocity spread) and audio clip features (like pitch/volume modulation and warping) will be imported as closely as possible. Warp modes are converted to the closest match.
Not Imported
Track input routings (MIDI From and Audio From)

Native Ableton devices

Audio Units (AU) plug-ins

Any other DAW does this to such an extent?

That's quite surprising and unheard of, right?

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Thu May 27, 2021 12:26 pm

As I have Bitwig 4 beta, Live 11 and FL Studio I was very interested in this- just did a Live project, its works amazingly well...lots of stuff (like for example Force, MPC etc could also exports as 'Live' projects, so they will probably also go in as 'Bitwig' Projects...I have an MPC Live so will gibe this a try....

Its a smart marketing move from a niche DAW that may be many peoples second (or even 3rd) DAW for certain functions...

PieBerger · Post by **PieBerger** » Thu May 27, 2021 12:47 pm

Such a col feature. I have quite a few tracks that I was planning to finish in Live, because manually migrating everything over would be a pain, but this feature may very well change that!

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu May 27, 2021 12:49 pm

That's pretty impressive really - unfortunately I tend to use Live for the native/M4L devices more than anything but it will be a boon for many people working in both DAWs

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Thu May 27, 2021 1:00 pm

aMUSEd wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 12:49 pm That's pretty impressive really - unfortunately I tend to use Live for the native/M4L devices more than anything but it will be a boon for many people working in both DAWs

Ditto- Bounce!

pc999 · Post by **pc999** » Thu May 27, 2021 1:36 pm

This is a great move IMO, if it works well with Akai Force will be quite useful for me I guess.

There should be an open source industry standard just for this

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Thu May 27, 2021 1:47 pm

especially great because BWS works with multiple tabs, so FLS?AL projects can be opened on the non-active ones (FL is really great as scratchpad: "Patterns (FL) are imported as Bitwig scenes, with a clip created for each used channel.")

Importing FL Studio Projects (FLP)
Bitwig Studio version 4.0 can import some data from projects saved in FL Studio version 9 and later.

As the structure of the two products is vastly different, the process can be a bit hit-and-miss. Consider this as a tool for moving material across rather than a full project conversion.

What's Imported
Channels (FL) are converted to Tracks (BW). Supported channel types are audio, VST2/VST3 instrument channels, and sampler channels. Native instrument channels are imported as empty instrument tracks.
The first Playlist (FL) is imported as the arrangement, with its patterns & audio events converted into Arranger clips.
Patterns (FL) are imported as Bitwig scenes, with a clip created for each used channel.
Insert mixer tracks (FL) are converted to tracks, or group tracks (if multiple Channels were routed to it).

Not Imported
Any automation (clips or events)
Multiple playlists
Routings between Insert mixer tracks
Native FL devices
Audio Units (AU) plug-ins

poshook · Post by **poshook** » Thu May 27, 2021 2:04 pm

Sampler still no slicing and time stretching.....

kvotchin · Post by **kvotchin** » Thu May 27, 2021 2:42 pm

poshook wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 2:04 pm Sampler still no slicing and time stretching.....

On that note, does Bitwig do time-stretching with tracks, samples, imported audio files, w/e? I’ve heard that some DAWs don’t offer this. Must admit, I’ve become accustomed to it being doable.

apoclypse · Post by **apoclypse** » Thu May 27, 2021 2:58 pm

Not technically a DAW (as in software) but Akai's Force has had ALS import for a while now and it can export to ALS as well.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Thu May 27, 2021 3:10 pm

kvotchin wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 2:42 pm
poshook wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 2:04 pm Sampler still no slicing and time stretching.....
On that note, does Bitwig do time-stretching with tracks, samples, imported audio files, w/e? I’ve heard that some DAWs don’t offer this. Must admit, I’ve become accustomed to it being doable.

Yes.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Thu May 27, 2021 3:11 pm

poshook wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 2:04 pm Sampler still no slicing and time stretching.....

And what does that have to do with thread's topic?

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Thu May 27, 2021 3:15 pm

apoclypse wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 2:58 pm Not technically a DAW (as in software) but Akai's Force has had ALS import for a while now and it can export to ALS as well.

Yes, force and MPC can export ALS and now be opened in Bitwig

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Thu May 27, 2021 3:17 pm

antic604 wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 3:11 pm
poshook wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 2:04 pm Sampler still no slicing and time stretching.....
And what does that have to do with thread's topic?

Sounds like somebody trying to justify whey they don't use Bitwig

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu May 27, 2021 3:18 pm

SLiC wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 3:15 pm
apoclypse wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 2:58 pm Not technically a DAW (as in software) but Akai's Force has had ALS import for a while now and it can export to ALS as well.
Yes, force and MPC can export ALS and now be opened in Bitwig

I'm curious to hear how well that works!

Bitwig 4 importing Live & FL projects - industry first?